New toys...

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:50 pm

Anyone wanna guess what size these injectors are that are going in my car?

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:37 pm

880's....?

1000's...?

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:38 pm

Keep going...

03blackrt · Post by **03blackrt** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:45 pm

too-big-for-a-stock-bottom-end's

or maybe i'm-running-E85's

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:46 pm

Oh, i forgot you're using e-85. I bet they're 1200's or close to it...

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:12 pm

Keep going...

bigbird · Post by **bigbird** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:35 pm

four garden hoses?

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:19 pm

Keep going... hehe

1680cc garden hoses, to be exact. I don't think I'll run out of injector anytime soon. These should be good to around 800whp with e85 depending on fuel pressure. Anyone want a good deal on the 440s I have in the car now?

Kevin_GP · Post by **Kevin_GP** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:56 pm

esteinmaier wrote:Keep going... hehe

1680cc garden hoses, to be exact. I don't think I'll run out of injector anytime soon. These should be good to around 800whp with e85 depending on fuel pressure. Anyone want a good deal on the 440s I have in the car now?

Are you going to run high res code? Are those injectors the same height as srt-4 injectors? We finally got e85 up here and I wanted to run it, that is if I can fix my stupid car.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:12 pm

Not for the time being. I'll just have to live with a really ugly idle. I'll just skip by the high res code and go right to MS2 once it becomes necessary. I haven't dropped them in the car yet, but I think they are stock height, which I'm excited about, so I can take those little spacers out and bolt the fuel rail down where it's supposed to be.

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:39 pm

esteinmaier wrote:Keep going... hehe

1680cc garden hoses, to be exact. I don't think I'll run out of injector anytime soon. These should be good to around 800whp with e85 depending on fuel pressure. Anyone want a good deal on the 440s I have in the car now?

That is rediculous.

No, you won't run out of injector any time soon.

Hudson_Neon · Post by **Hudson_Neon** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:48 pm

Kevin_GP wrote:
esteinmaier wrote:Keep going... hehe

1680cc garden hoses, to be exact. I don't think I'll run out of injector anytime soon. These should be good to around 800whp with e85 depending on fuel pressure. Anyone want a good deal on the 440s I have in the car now?
Are you going to run high res code? Are those injectors the same height as srt-4 injectors? We finally got e85 up here and I wanted to run it, that is if I can fix my stupid car.

lol... that kinda cracks me up. livin in WI, E-85 is at every station i go to. guess that's what i get livin in the upper mid-west

kevo · Post by **kevo** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:12 pm

Hudson_Neon wrote:
Kevin_GP wrote:
esteinmaier wrote:Keep going... hehe

1680cc garden hoses, to be exact. I don't think I'll run out of injector anytime soon. These should be good to around 800whp with e85 depending on fuel pressure. Anyone want a good deal on the 440s I have in the car now?
Are you going to run high res code? Are those injectors the same height as srt-4 injectors? We finally got e85 up here and I wanted to run it, that is if I can fix my stupid car.
lol... that kinda cracks me up. livin in WI, E-85 is at every station i go to. guess that's what i get livin in the upper mid-west

lol... that actually cracks me up. The first gas station to have e-85 just opened in miami, its still almost 20 miles from my house.

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:11 am

yeah I have an e85 station less than 2 miles from me.

been around for a while as well

Those things are huge

Kevin_GP · Post by **Kevin_GP** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:56 am

kevo wrote:
Hudson_Neon wrote:
Kevin_GP wrote: Are you going to run high res code? Are those injectors the same height as srt-4 injectors? We finally got e85 up here and I wanted to run it, that is if I can fix my stupid car.
lol... that kinda cracks me up. livin in WI, E-85 is at every station i go to. guess that's what i get livin in the upper mid-west
lol... that actually cracks me up. The first gas station to have e-85 just opened in miami, its still almost 20 miles from my house.

Where in Miami? I wanted to try to set up table switching with MS and run e85 in tallahassee, regular gas in Miami. Either way the one that opened up here is about 5 miles away, not bad.

lambostealth · Post by **lambostealth** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:49 am

ive NEVER seen an E85 pump.

titansxt · Post by **titansxt** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:33 am

lambostealth wrote:ive NEVER seen an E85 pump.

Its so.......futuristic!

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:05 am

Woot! With about 38psi base fuel pressure, I'm idling quite a bit above the 1ms lower limit PW. Around 1.4ms right now. I had to drop most of my other settings to their lowest practical setting. I still have to tweak my PWM current and time settings a little bit to make them work better, but I drove to work today on them, and I saw DC peaks less than 50%. Rad.

quicksilvr · Post by **quicksilvr** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:52 pm

esteinmaier wrote:Woot! With about 38psi base fuel pressure, I'm idling quite a bit above the 1ms lower limit PW. Around 1.4ms right now. I had to drop most of my other settings to their lowest practical setting. I still have to tweak my PWM current and time settings a little bit to make them work better, but I drove to work today on them, and I saw DC peaks less than 50%. Rad.

Cool. I'm a little suprised that they work...I had a feeling you'd have to drop your PW all the way down, and it still wouldn't be enough. Where are your PWM current and time settings now?

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:21 pm

1.3ms opening time, 40% current. After making a few changes, it's idling at 1.6ms. I'm very impressed by the way this fuel system is coming together.

J-Villa · Post by **J-Villa** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:44 pm

lambostealth wrote:ive NEVER seen an E85 pump.

either have i....can stock neons run this gas safely anyways?

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:53 pm

After you get bigger injectors I believe you can

kevo · Post by **kevo** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:55 pm

Kevin_GP wrote:
kevo wrote:
Hudson_Neon wrote: lol... that kinda cracks me up. livin in WI, E-85 is at every station i go to. guess that's what i get livin in the upper mid-west
lol... that actually cracks me up. The first gas station to have e-85 just opened in miami, its still almost 20 miles from my house.
Where in Miami? I wanted to try to set up table switching with MS and run e85 in tallahassee, regular gas in Miami. Either way the one that opened up here is about 5 miles away, not bad.

Kev its near the mall of the americas. U-Gas station at 210 NW 79th Ave

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:42 am

Kevin_GP wrote:
esteinmaier wrote:Keep going... hehe

1680cc garden hoses, to be exact. I don't think I'll run out of injector anytime soon. These should be good to around 800whp with e85 depending on fuel pressure. Anyone want a good deal on the 440s I have in the car now?
Are you going to run high res code? Are those injectors the same height as srt-4 injectors? We finally got e85 up here and I wanted to run it, that is if I can fix my stupid car.

Switched over tonight. It's amazing in comparison. I recommend it to everyone, whether they are running stock injectors or huge ones. The resolution makes everything run so much more smoothly.

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:34 am

J-Villa wrote:
lambostealth wrote:ive NEVER seen an E85 pump.
either have i....can stock neons run this gas safely anyways?

Depending on what you consider safe. I'm still a little iffy about using E85 in a stock neon (with injectors to suit it of course). Maybe after Erick gets some more miles on the setup I'll be good. But he has mentioned loss of the fuel gauge.

Also, you can probably buy E85 by the barrel if its not available in your area.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:53 am

Some more miles? Dude, I have well over 20k miles on it. Maybe into the 30k range. I haven't been keeping track.

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:20 pm

I'm talking like 50k-75k+.

30k ain't much imo. I did that in the first year and a half.

IMO, since your fuel gauge doesn't work anymore it's eating something up. I need to see long term effects, since the car was not intended for E85 use.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:31 pm

Did the fuel gauge ever work? lol

I don't believe there is a single E85 pump within 150miles of me.

Kevin_GP · Post by **Kevin_GP** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:24 pm

esteinmaier wrote:
Kevin_GP wrote:
esteinmaier wrote:Keep going... hehe

1680cc garden hoses, to be exact. I don't think I'll run out of injector anytime soon. These should be good to around 800whp with e85 depending on fuel pressure. Anyone want a good deal on the 440s I have in the car now?
Are you going to run high res code? Are those injectors the same height as srt-4 injectors? We finally got e85 up here and I wanted to run it, that is if I can fix my stupid car.
Switched over tonight. It's amazing in comparison. I recommend it to everyone, whether they are running stock injectors or huge ones. The resolution makes everything run so much more smoothly.

Hmm I will try it out when my car runs again. Are you still going to switch over to MS2? What car are those injectors intended for? Ie where did you get them?