drifting destroy ur brakes?

Skidman · Post by **Skidman** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:01 pm

if heard that driving with the ebrake up will glaze ur rear brakes...if that's the case....wouldnt drifting destroy ur tires AND ur brakes in a FWD car?

Post by **racer12306** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:23 pm

since you are not truly drifting, more brake sliding when doing that in a fwd car, then yes it will kill the brakes.

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:41 pm

^not if its in a parking lot full of ice! FWD snow drifting ftw.

OB · Post by OB » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:33 pm

Drifting is hard on both brakes and tires in any car, regardless of configuration.

Skidman · Post by **Skidman** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:35 pm

racer12306 wrote:since you are not truly drifting, more brake sliding when doing that in a fwd car, then yes it will kill the brakes.

it is a true drift because the car is travelling sideways in a controlled fashion...its a handbrake drift....they also have the scandanavian flick drift....

u cant powerslide in a front wheel drive car tho...

fixitmattman · Post by **fixitmattman** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:26 am

control your drift and make me a figure 8.....

..........oh wait you can't because you're not drifting, you're just oversteering for a brief moment.

evilneon02 · Post by **evilneon02** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:05 pm

OB wrote:Drifting is hard on both brakes and tires in any car, regardless of configuration.

its all bad for the car but its fun fun fun

Skidman wrote:
racer12306 wrote:since you are not truly drifting, more brake sliding when doing that in a fwd car, then yes it will kill the brakes.
it is a true drift because the car is travelling sideways in a controlled fashion...its a handbrake drift....they also have the scandanavian flick drift....

u cant powerslide in a front wheel drive car tho...

its is drifting it doesnt matter front or rear. b/c some of the rwd use there e brake too.

fixitmattman wrote:control your drift and make me a figure 8.....

..........oh wait you can't because you're not drifting, you're just oversteering for a brief moment.

why yes we fwd can do a figure 8 drift all you need is the horsepower and speed and know what your doing and it can be done.

fixitmattman · Post by **fixitmattman** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:28 pm

I would love to see a fwd car drift a figure 8.

Post by **racer12306** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:44 pm

Because I have seen this happen before (and not too long ago)...

Please don't turn this into a can a fwd drift thing. I know I made my comment about it and everyone has their opinions about it. Some say yes, some say no. I can just see where this is headed, so please make me wrong.

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:01 am

racer12306 wrote:Because I have seen this happen before (and not too long ago)...

Please don't turn this into a can a fwd drift thing. I know I made my comment about it and everyone has their opinions about it. Some say yes, some say no. I can just see where this is headed, so please make me wrong.

who drifts in a Neon or any sort of FWD car anyway? Looks stupid and it is stupid.

/thread.

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:33 pm

yeah please, let us NOT turn this into you drift so your dumb thread or whether or not a FWD car can or can not drift - let by gones be by gones - so if I see it turning this way - BAM

so no

or else

and everyone will be

so stop the

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:31 pm

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:55 pm

I took a 90 degree turn at 50mph, lost control of the wheel and "drifted", eventually hitting the curb.

I don't think that's drifting though. That's being a dumbass.

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:15 pm

no, that's called wrong suspension setup for the attempted move.

contagious18 · Post by **contagious18** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:57 pm

it could also mest up ur wheel bearings cus it has happend to my dumbass.

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:06 am

Wenuden wrote:no, that's called wrong suspension setup for the attempted move.

SRT sway bars on the front and rear??

Maybe my driver mod is whack

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:14 am

thats atleast better than stock.

a PT GT front bar (or is it the PT vert) with an ACR rear bar is supposed to be the way to go.

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:23 pm

w3rd... but you need more than bars to handle a 90* bend at 50mph... I have adjustable dampening on my shocks, larger srt front/acr rear bars, strut towe bars, mopar rear tensioner struts, 1gn rt front, srt4 rear springs, and I cant handle that either.

deep1ca · Post by **deep1ca** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:57 pm

I was wondering this too, now that theres snow, i often take my car around empty residential streets and slide round the corner by locking the rear wheels with the hand brake. Am I killing the brakes?

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:55 pm

Your not helping them.

Arro · Post by **Arro** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:47 pm

Adionik wrote:I took a 90 degree turn at 50mph, lost control of the wheel and "drifted", eventually hitting the curb.

I don't think that's drifting though. That's being a dumbass.

You made me actually laugh out loud, thanks!

"drifting" a FWD is as ricer as calling nitrous oxide injection "forced induction".

*steps back from ground zero.....*

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:08 pm

Arro wrote:
Adionik wrote:I took a 90 degree turn at 50mph, lost control of the wheel and "drifted", eventually hitting the curb.

I don't think that's drifting though. That's being a dumbass.
You made me actually laugh out loud, thanks!

"drifting" a FWD is as ricer as calling nitrous oxide injection "forced induction".

*steps back from ground zero.....*

Anytime.

I thought two things once I hit the curb.

1. I'm going to die

2. This is going to look really cool to those watching.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:52 am

deep1ca wrote:I was wondering this too, now that theres snow, i often take my car around empty residential streets and slide round the corner by locking the rear wheels with the hand brake. Am I killing the brakes?

If you have rear disc brakes, all your doing is using your emergency brakes to lock the rear wheels to help control the turn. Here in WNY when the roads are bad I burb my ebrake to get the rear wheels to lock and start the rear end to slide to help make turns sharper.
ABS and Traction control are useless if the roads have inch's of snow or is covered with ice....

Arro · Post by **Arro** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:05 pm

I used to do that with my '92 Honda Prelude Si all the time.. I could slide through turns and pull out hard with the accellerator. Was lots of fun.

This is technically referred to as "powersliding". When you "drift", that means the drive wheels are no longer only pushing the car, but are deviating sideways as well. Powersliding isn't the same. Powersliding is where you break loose ALL FOUR wheels, and the entire car is sliding sideways.

If you watch cars drifting, you will see that the front wheels do not lose grip, and are what "steer" the drift. You can't steer a powerslide in any way whatsoever, so you better get your trajectory right when you break all four tires loose, or you will wind up hitting something.

A curb, in Adionik's case

A drifting car could have possibly pulled out of that. A powersliding car (FWD) cannot. Once it's broken loose, that's the direction it's going.

Really the only people who debate whether or not a FWD car can "drift" are those who don't understand this.

But then, you also sometimes find those people crunchied into the tree trunk at the outside of the apex of a back road turn

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:13 pm

ok, thanks for all the technical info on drifting, lets please stop talking about how and what to and what is or is not a drift... keep it on topic which is what happens to rear brakes when ebrake is pulle dup (glazing) and does it destroy tires...

If I hear more info on how to and how not to drift and what it is - or even more debating, I will lock topic. Thanks!

Arro · Post by **Arro** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:33 pm

But um, it's relevant! When you pull the ebrake on a FWD vehicle and initiate a powerslide, the wheels lock up, the cars slides, and that is that.

When you yank briefly on the ebrake on an RWD, then fan the accellerator pedal, that engages it into a drift. The question of the original post in this thread not only has to do with the difference, it requires the explanation of the differences to show why there's no damage done to brakes on a FWD when you pull the ebrake in a powerslide.

Now, if you're just driving down the street, basically moving straight, and you pull and hold the ebrake, you're gonna wear hard on the rear drum, and I've even seen some smoking because they are burning, but that's not the same as what he asked.

As far as tires go, drifting (RWD) tears them up real fast, but powerslides (FWD) don't, although because they are FWD, the rear wheels run the risk of locking up, and thus rubbing flat spots into the tires. This means while driving normal the tire will "whump-whump-whump-whump" down the road from the flat spots. No fun. On a RWD car, because they can drift (keep the wheels spinning) with fanning of the accellerator pedal, they wear the tire evenly around the circumference. Again, it's the difference between a powerslide and a drift.

Anyways if you want to lock it because I explained the two conditions properly in order to show why the brakes won't be affected with a FWD, then you're the moderator, not me

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:57 pm

kc2002acr wrote:ok, thanks for all the technical info on drifting, lets please stop talking about how and what to and what is or is not a drift... keep it on topic which is what happens to rear brakes when ebrake is pulle dup (glazing) and does it destroy tires...

If I hear more info on how to and how not to drift and what it is - or even more debating, I will lock topic. Thanks!

I assume someone doesn't get enough Topic Locking action to be SO ready to lock a topic...

OverDrive418 · Post by **OverDrive418** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:37 pm

Never used it on my brakes but it does prevent chaffing!!

(ok, you can lock it now!)

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:17 am

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:32 pm

Adionik wrote:
kc2002acr wrote:ok, thanks for all the technical info on drifting, lets please stop talking about how and what to and what is or is not a drift... keep it on topic which is what happens to rear brakes when ebrake is pulle dup (glazing) and does it destroy tires...

If I hear more info on how to and how not to drift and what it is - or even more debating, I will lock topic. Thanks!
I assume someone doesn't get enough Topic Locking action to be SO ready to lock a topic...

Yeah I guess so, smart ass. I am trying to keep my sections free of trolling and stupid nonsensical crap like drifting, so topic locked.