Spark Plugs should I use?

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:07 am

I have an 03 R/T nearing 86k and I wanted to get the spark plugs and all that crap outta the way before hand, so I ordered a MSD coil pack and wires but I am not sure what spark plugs will be the best for my car, any suggestions? Or if you can point me in the right direction i appreciate it thanks.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:31 am

My best recomendation is use the search button at the top and search the term "Sparkplugs"
There are tons of recomendations on what to use and what not to use....

Me personally, I use NGK Iridiums
http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=17924
^^^
My review of them....

2001rt32 · Post by **2001rt32** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:06 am

i have the ngk v power and i love them. i would recomend them or the iridium.

Post by **jonnymopar** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:26 am

I've had NGK Iridiums in for over 45k miles and they're still perfect. I'm running NGK V-Power in my mother's Stratus and they're great too. Either way.

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:46 pm

ngk vpowers!

-Devil- · Post by **-Devil-** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:54 pm

what is the difference between the irid's? and the coppers? ...

i mean a performance / durability difference ... besides just the price ...

they dont suffer from the same issue that the plat plugs do with the neon ignition?

danman132x · Post by **danman132x** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:30 pm

I change mine with Champion copper's every 10K miles.

-Devil- · Post by **-Devil-** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:38 pm

all of mine have always had NGK Coppers since the day i brought em home ...

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:19 pm

-Devil- wrote:what is the difference between the irid's? and the coppers? ...

i mean a performance / durability difference ... besides just the price ...

they dont suffer from the same issue that the plat plugs do with the neon ignition?

http://www.ngkiridium.com/RenderScriptT ... ngkiridium

just click on the pic and it will expand. The difference is in the electrodes the copper looks like a normal plug copper conductor inside the ceramic. the iridum plug's electrode is much smaller diameter. A smaller electrode will discharge a spark easier than a fatter one.

http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/products/c ... country=US

And another take on sparkplug design
http://www.extremespark.com/

-Devil- · Post by **-Devil-** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:45 pm

ok, anyone have info that doesn't sound like the typical sales pitch?

thanks for the links to Occasional demons

asanti · Post by **asanti** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:37 am

Either go with the stock Champions (RC9YC I believe) or the NGK V power (BK6RES again I think). Both seem to work best for the neon applications from what I've used in my car. Mine are usually gapped anywhere from .045-.060 due to the screamin demon coil and hold up to my driving abuses w/ no problems. The only main difference I've seen is that the NGK's last a little longer though I'm anal and change plugs every 4-6 months...

Later
Allex

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:42 am

ok, anyone have info that doesn't sound like the typical sales pitch?

Everyone is voicing there opionion on what to use like you asked.....

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:47 pm

thanks for the replies guys

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:12 pm

Sorry for the comment above Devil.....

-Devil- · Post by **-Devil-** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:16 pm

BlackRoseRacing wrote:Sorry for the comment above Devil.....

it's ok ... i hope i explained myself in the pm

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:23 pm

Anyways....
Back to the plugs......

If you dont mind changing the spark plugs every 9k miles, then stick with the copper spark plugs. One I dont recomend are the Champions due to how many vehicles come through the dealership with misfire problems related to the spark plugs.Ive seen to many Champion spark plugs have the ceramic body start leaking around the base of the plug causing the spark to arc and cause misfires.
As for the spark plug gap, if you dont generally rev over 5000rpm too often, then use the recomended gap of .035....
I tend to rev up to the redline too often, and my plug gap is around .045 to help cope with a top end miss assosiated with high revving.
Note these recomendations are only good for N/A motors and NOT forced inducted or nitrous injected.

-Devil- · Post by **-Devil-** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:52 pm

i normally pull mine ever 2 to 3k ...

my gap currently is at .047 to .050 (mostly depending on weather temp) ...

NGK is the only choice for me .. just hadn't heard much about the ird's ... so thanks for the info ... will stick with my coppers

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:07 pm

so can i go into autozone and be like i need some ngks with a .045 gap?

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:31 am

spark plugs come pre gapped from the manufacturer, but its always a good idea to check the gap with a gapper to make sure there within specifications

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:16 am

where do i purchase a gapper?

mike9fore · Post by **mike9fore** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:47 am

KC21Balla wrote:where do i purchase a gapper?

Anywhere Auto Parts Are Sold!!!!! (I.E. Advanced Auto, Napa, Summit Racing, the list continues!!!

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:54 am

10 bucks?

mike9fore · Post by **mike9fore** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:10 am

KC21Balla wrote:10 bucks?

.99 and up!

pyro · Post by **pyro** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:07 pm

I've been told the wire type is best(with the square loops), and to avoid the little disc one with the ramps around the side.

Post by **racer12306** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:59 pm

I've always used the little disc ones without a problem. Never used the wire kind that I can remember.

I use NGK Iridiums and before that I used NGK V-Powers. I was not happy with the OEM champions, seemed to die too quickly. I'm gonna leave the Iridiums in for a while, like 60000+

-Devil- · Post by **-Devil-** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:18 pm

its all about how careful you are with the spark plug gapping tool ... the disc ones .. you just have to make sure you are on the exact spot and not at an angle ...

i still have an old set of 'feeler' guages ... the flat metal that folds up into a holder .. geeze this set must be from the 50's at least .. i still use them to this day to check and set the gap on plugs....

hound9164 · Post by **hound9164** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:18 pm

asanti wrote:Either go with the stock Champions (RC9YC I believe) or the NGK V power (BK6RES again I think). Both seem to work best for the neon applications from what I've used in my car. Mine are usually gapped anywhere from .045-.060 due to the screamin demon coil and hold up to my driving abuses w/ no problems. The only main difference I've seen is that the NGK's last a little longer though I'm anal and change plugs every 4-6 months...

Later
Allex

I agree. I picked up the NGK plugs, and then bought the champions on the next plug change. both work extremely well. My dad has used only champions on his neon, with a hell of alot more miles, and they still fire up great.

NGK or Champions, i dont think u can go wrong with either choice.

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:24 pm

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:32 pm

KC21Balla wrote: ill suck it for neon parts

ok

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:09 pm

wtf i left my thing up at work and my co worker put that shit..lol