what happened to the demon?

ragek23 · Post by **ragek23** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:06 pm

so i havent heard any new news about the Demon. Also dodge doesn't have the car listed on its' list of concept cars. So did they scrap it?

Post by **Diablo0** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:20 pm

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Ne ... eId=124328

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:22 pm

Yuk, chinese cars.

Thats just what we need, even shittier quality control on cars.

lolelectricbluesxt · Post by **lolelectricbluesxt** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:52 pm

Interestingly, the now rear-wheel-drive concept will be developed on a front-wheel-drive platform from China's Chery Automobile. The change was made in part to meet toughening emissions regulations, the publication says.

How does switching the car from RWD to FWD make the car easier emissions wise? Seems like they're coping out to make a cheaper car.

dodge_girl · Post by **dodge_girl** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:55 pm

Post by **Diablo0** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:01 pm

Eh, you'll be alright as long as you dont' lick anything on it. Might get lead poisoning lol

lolelectricbluesxt · Post by **lolelectricbluesxt** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:04 pm

This car is just what I've always wanted. A Chinese made FWD Miata.

Cbussilver01es · Post by **Cbussilver01es** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:37 pm

Diablo0 wrote:Eh, you'll be alright as long as you dont' lick anything on it. Might get lead poisoning lol

Dammit you beat me to it....

OverDrive418 · Post by **OverDrive418** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:25 pm

Yea Dodge for f'ing up what could have been an awesome car! Yahoo!

-Devil- · Post by **-Devil-** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:30 pm

i will wait till it is out before i decide .. i like the concept ... and there is still a good chance that it will be good afterwards ...

hell our neons are fwd ...

all it means is a little more interior room .. and trunk space ...

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:02 pm

racer12306 wrote:Yuk, chinese cars.

Thats just what we need, even shittier quality control on cars.

Amen, I am with you.

-Nick

ragek23 · Post by **ragek23** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:39 pm

^ GOD DAMN IT !
SO basically now the Dodge Demon is useless. I was hoping to use it in the future as a track car and compete with miatas and S2000s.

Dodge has screwed everything up since 05.
I mean its quite pathetic how dodge's suvs get 15MPG while citroen's full size SUVs get 42MPG in their desil version which can reach 135mph and is only a 2.2L diesel. (check the specs: http://www.citroen.co.uk/level4/technic ... &infoID=12 )

I think after I graduate I am going to buy a european car or an EVO IX. I can't stand the shitty quality and bad decisions dodge has started to make.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:55 pm

ragek23 wrote:^ GOD DAMN IT !
SO basically now the Dodge Demon is useless.

To me, the Dodge Demon will be Useless, as well.

THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL that I am going to buy a CHINESE made crap car, EVEN IF it is badged as a "Dodge".

If i ever WANT to buy Chinese-made CRAP, i will just go to Wal-Mart.

-Nick

zerocoolok · Post by **zerocoolok** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:30 pm

Ill bet they are gonna charge the same MSRP for the Chinese POS that they were for the original concept. The emissions crap was a lie, they don't want to spend the money on a new drivetrain for the car, they are cheaping out. Dodge is turning into GM, taking crappy cars from overseas and trying to sell them for premium prices here.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:50 pm

"the now rear-wheel-drive concept will be developed on a front-wheel-drive platform"

I believe it will still be RWD, they are just using a FWD Chasis.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:21 am

FWD or RWD, who cares... No Dodges from China. PERIOD!!!

ragek23 · Post by **ragek23** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:34 am

Midnight_Rider wrote:FWD or RWD, who cares... No Dodges from China. PERIOD!!!

Exactly!^

Id rather buy a kia than a dodge made from china.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:53 am

China, Mexico... whats the difference

If the Demon Comes out and its a 2seater RWD sports car and they build an SRT-4 version of it that has similar performance data as the Crossfire SRT-6 then all will be good.

pyro · Post by **pyro** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:38 am

^^^ The difference is who got paid to build it.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:53 am

MoxHair wrote:China, Mexico... whats the difference

The difference is that imported vehicles (even captive imports) cause American auto workers to lose their jobs. Bottom line, no if''s, and's or but's.

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:35 am

Midnight_Rider wrote:
MoxHair wrote:China, Mexico... whats the difference
The difference is that imported vehicles (even captive imports) cause American auto workers to lose their jobs. Bottom line, no if''s, and's or but's.

I'm all for jobs here in America, but my wallet is NOT ready to see the premium of "Good ol American Made" quality.

You'll pay a lot more for something made here

Post by **Diablo0** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:58 am

Not all import vechiles if you base it on manufacture names. BMW, it's a german company but the assembly plant for the Z4 and X5 is located here in Greenville-Spartanburg, SC

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/200 ... usat_N.htm

lolelectricbluesxt · Post by **lolelectricbluesxt** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:08 pm

Here's a crash test video from one of Chery's well crafted vehicles:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5kQGAK550LE

As you can see, Chery are all about safety over cost. I for one welcome any help whatsoever Chery will be offering Dodge in the manufacturing of the Demon.

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:38 pm

lolelectricbluesxt wrote:Here's a crash test video from one of Chery's well crafted vehicles:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5kQGAK550LE

As you can see, Chery are all about safety over cost. I for one welcome any help whatsoever Chery will be offering Dodge in the manufacturing of the Demon.

That just makes everything better

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:01 pm

lolelectricbluesxt wrote:Here's a crash test video from one of Chery's well crafted vehicles:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5kQGAK550LE

As you can see, Chery are all about safety over cost. I for one welcome any help whatsoever Chery will be offering Dodge in the manufacturing of the Demon.

LMFAO

HOLY SHIT

350Z it is!

zerocoolok · Post by **zerocoolok** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:21 pm

lolelectricbluesxt wrote:Here's a crash test video from one of Chery's well crafted vehicles:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5kQGAK550LE

As you can see, Chery are all about safety over cost. I for one welcome any help whatsoever Chery will be offering Dodge in the manufacturing of the Demon.

Holy Smokes.... I hope that didn't pass our crash test regulations...

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:39 pm

Toyota, BMW, Honda, etc may have plants in america, so that is atleast a step in the right direction. However, the money goes back to their home countries.

When I can afford it, I will certainly buy American. Its just that there are things I need and chinese products is all that I can afford for the most part.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:00 pm

zerocoolok wrote:
lolelectricbluesxt wrote:Here's a crash test video from one of Chery's well crafted vehicles:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5kQGAK550LE

As you can see, Chery are all about safety over cost. I for one welcome any help whatsoever Chery will be offering Dodge in the manufacturing of the Demon.
Holy Smokes.... I hope that didn't pass our crash test regulations...

If it is sold in America is has to Pass OUR safety standards. So a crash test of some car over seas means nothing.

They will build the car and it will pass safety and emission standards otherwise it wouldn't be sold in America.

We support the one American car company that cuts more corners than all the others and you want to talk about how "cheap" a car built off of a Chassis from China would be.

Midnight_Rider wrote:
MoxHair wrote:China, Mexico... whats the difference
The difference is that imported vehicles (even captive imports) cause American auto workers to lose their jobs. Bottom line, no if''s, and's or but's.

yes, but the failures of a joint venture would also cost American Worker's their Jobs because the main company wouldn't have the money to employ them.

All and All, I blame our own government for not making it beneficial for American companies to keep things in America, for instance charging a Tariff on ALL imported goods, no matter what company owns/produces the goods.. Etc etc But that would never happen cause it would cause the price of the goods we need to go up and with our economy....

I understand your viewpoint and respect it.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:49 am

The problem is that the playing field is not level. Everything is stacked against manufacturing goods here in the US (foreign currencies are purposely undervalued making goods from those countries cost less here while those same countries tack tarriffs on American-made goods making them outrageously expensive so we can't compete). As far as not being able to afford American-made goods, I usually just go without if I can't buy American (almost to the point of going naked since I can't find American-made clothing anymore). And that's a scary picture.

ragek23 · Post by **ragek23** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:02 am

lolelectricbluesxt wrote:Here's a crash test video from one of Chery's well crafted vehicles:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5kQGAK550LE

As you can see, Chery are all about safety over cost. I for one welcome any help whatsoever Chery will be offering Dodge in the manufacturing of the Demon.

^ This is how china does population control.