Hotchkis Sway Bars

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:22 pm

What are these strut tower braces I hear about?

TN.Frank · Post by **TN.Frank** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:38 pm

LOL, I posted a link so you an give em' a look. Just wonder if stock anti-sway bars + upper strut bars will help handling or should I just get better anti-sway bars for now and do the upper strut bars at a later date.

Wenuden wrote: Frank, have you looked under the rear of your car? Neons stopped having rear sways in '01 or '02, I believe. I know my '05 sxt didn't have one.

I could have sworn that when they did my new muffler I saw a anti-sway bar back there. Guess I'll have to take anothe look. I did notice that there is the "bobble struts" that are horizontal down by the rear struts. I really need to look under the rear of my car more.

TN.Frank · Post by **TN.Frank** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:57 pm

Well, I just checked and I don't have a rear anti-sway bar.
What I thought was the anti-sway was somekind of link from the rear suppension to the body, in a RWD car I'd call it a 4-link but not sure what it's called here. Anyway, guess I need to get a good set of anti-sways, struts, lowing springs and upper strut tower rods and do it all at once when I can afford it. That along with a good set of 205/50/15's should make it handle like it's on rails.

gilly02le · Post by **gilly02le** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:05 pm

trailing links are the 2 arms on each side in the rear, running from rear crossmember, to wheel hub. There is also a tension strut rod, for each rear wheel, attached to the bottom of the wheel hub, running forward to the bottom of the vehicle.

P.s - your plan sounds good my friend, but i would add polyurethane suspension bushings in there too... either prothane or energy master kit... you will really like the difference they make.

TN.Frank · Post by **TN.Frank** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:08 pm

Yep, I want a set of those too. Hopefully most of the replacement parts will come with poly bushing instead of rubber but I'll probably just get a set to be sure and replace all that I can get to when I do the suppension work.

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:39 pm

I need some lowering springs now...

TN.Frank · Post by **TN.Frank** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:51 pm

I like these:
http://www.modernperformance.com/produc ... 6e5d67b139
They lower the car enough to look good without getting too crazy. I'm going to pair em' with some of the KYB GR2 struts when I get the cash.

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:40 am

Figure I would do an update, but I had a rematch with a safer, yet equally potentially-strut-altering turn, and KICKED ITS ASS!

So new tires...ftw. I can't break the rear loose anymore. Damn thing is a tank.

OB · Post by OB » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:01 am

TN.Frank wrote:I like these:
http://www.modernperformance.com/produc ... 6e5d67b139
They lower the car enough to look good without getting too crazy. I'm going to pair em' with some of the KYB GR2 struts when I get the cash.

The Pro Kit is a good choice if you want a decent drop and improved handling. Quite a bit stiffer than stock. Though I dont have any experience with the KYB's, I would suggest the Tokico HP's instead, since they have better ratings among Neon owners, including myself. And the price MPX sells them for is just plain unbeatable.

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:44 am

Tokico Blues won't let you run the high profile tires like the 205/50 series...=\

I wanted to get them but that stopped me.

asanti · Post by **asanti** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:18 pm

Adionik Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:44 am Post subject:

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Tokico Blues won't let you run the high profile tires like the 205/50 series...=\

I wanted to get them but that stopped me.

Ummm, that may truly suck for me then considering I just received my Tokiko Blues from Modern today and my Hotchkiss sways arrive on Tuesday. I'm planning on dropping the car with the Kazera springs I have waiting, then putting on my summer Rotas that DO have 205/50/15's

. Care to explain more Adionik?

Later
Allex

Jerome Adams · Post by **Jerome Adams** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:47 pm

I believe he is on 17's...205/50/15 is smaller than stock, you should be okay.

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:49 am

Yeah man i'm on 17's

Wow 205/50/15? I didn't know that tire size was even available LOL

You will be fine...if you decided to run thicker, wider tires on those struts you might need a 5mm spacer or so!

Good luck

Sways are nice but would VERY MUCH be complimented by lowering springs.

asanti · Post by **asanti** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:54 am

Adionik Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:49 am Post subject:

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Yeah man i'm on 17's

Wow 205/50/15? I didn't know that tire size was even available LOL

You will be fine...if you decided to run thicker, wider tires on those struts you might need a 5mm spacer or so!

Good luck

Sways are nice but would VERY MUCH be complimented by lowering springs.

Jerome Adams Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject:

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I believe he is on 17's...205/50/15 is smaller than stock, you should be okay.

WHEW!! Ok then

, I thought I'd be screwed

. But umm yeah I have Rota Subzero's with Kumho Ecsta Supras sized 205/50/15 (honestly I went from SRT4 rims running 205/40/17 to these). I know there's a 225/45/15 size available, but those are mainly road racing tires like Toyo RA-1's. Mine sit about 1" lower than the stock 185/65/15 on factory snowflakes so: smaller size + less weight =

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Later
Allex

AMilbut · Post by **AMilbut** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:55 pm

Did the cost for the sways on Titanmotorsports go up? They appear to be 327 now vice the 270 everyone was talking about? Am I looking at the wrong thing?

srtminime · Post by **srtminime** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:52 pm

They must have ended the 11+ month "sale", too bad, I wanted a cheap set.

I have Khumo SPT 205-50s on my stock SXT rims and they made a huge difference in handling. I'd suggest the same for anyone that wants to keep their stock rims, they're great in the dry and capable in the wet.

I'm on Mopar springs and srt struts though so the springs perch is definately higher, by about 1". The aftermarket dropzones I previously used had a rear sway mount and better dampening than stock but had a 1/2" lower than stock Perch height.

It really depends on your tastes, but poly bushings, Hotchkiss sways, good tires and Mopar springs would be the ideal DD setup...

Steve

AMilbut · Post by **AMilbut** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:21 pm

Yup. I have a 05 sxt with tokico blues and eibach pros and was going to get these sways to compliment the drop, i'm still consiering it even though they are 50 bucks more.

jckevns · Post by **jckevns** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:30 pm

so after reading this thread the way i understand it is if i buy tokico struts and these sway bars i'll have everything i need to install them on my neon even though i don't have sway bars right now

asanti · Post by **asanti** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:45 pm

jckevns Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject:

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so after reading this thread the way i understand it is if i buy tokico struts and these sway bars i'll have everything i need to install them on my neon even though i don't have sway bars right now

Yup. Tokiko Blues come w/ the swaybar tabs already.

Later
Allex