srt rims

askebo · Post by **askebo** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:26 pm

I just wanna make sure before i buy them. Will they fit on a 2000 dodge neon

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:09 pm

yuppers! been looking myself for a nice set, good choice!

Post by **racer12306** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:14 pm

FYI, they aren't that great of a choice. heavy, limited tire sizes. technically a 215/40/17 and a 205/40/17 won't fit (if you follow the tire manufacturers recommended wheel width)

Passt · Post by **Passt** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:39 pm

w0158981 wrote:yuppers! been looking myself for a nice set, good choice!

I am about to invest in some rims and tires, if you're interested in my stock rims and tires let me know. The previous owner of the car had his own rims on the car, so I'm not sure how many miles they've actually seen. The car only has 16k miles on it now, and I acquired it with 12k, so I'd estimate around 8k miles on them? They are in great condition, and the tread is around 70% rear, 50% front. They're the rims in my sig.

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:01 am

racer12306 wrote:FYI, they aren't that great of a choice. heavy, limited tire sizes. technically a 215/40/17 and a 205/40/17 won't fit (if you follow the tire manufacturers recommended wheel width)

hopefully not a stupid question, but im curious, how come if it wont technically fit according to manufacturers rec on a 6inch wide rim, that the srts come with 205/50's on em?,

is it the extra sidewall that makes a diff?, i wouldnt see how, and many people here have the srt wheels with 205 or 215, even the stock snowflakes or 7spokes people are using 205, does that mean its unsafe?...

contagious18 · Post by **contagious18** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:29 pm

theyll fit but wit a 205/ 50 ur looking at tire rubbin on ur stock struts. i have 205/40 and they fit nice. plus 205 is the width the tire its da sidewall 50 dat hurts

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:07 pm

aquariuskid2001 wrote:
racer12306 wrote:FYI, they aren't that great of a choice. heavy, limited tire sizes. technically a 215/40/17 and a 205/40/17 won't fit (if you follow the tire manufacturers recommended wheel width)
hopefully not a stupid question, but im curious, how come if it wont technically fit according to manufacturers rec on a 6inch wide rim, that the srts come with 205/50's on em?,

is it the extra sidewall that makes a diff?, i wouldnt see how, and many people here have the srt wheels with 205 or 215, even the stock snowflakes or 7spokes people are using 205, does that mean its unsafe?...

The sidewall is what makes the difference. Having the taller sidewall gives the tire more room for movement inward. The shorter sidewall doesn't give that much, so it won't flex enough to fit on a 6" width safely.

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:15 pm

the taller tires rub on the strut perches on the stock neons, the srt4 had a higher strut perch, hence shorter springs which is why we can lower our neons with srt4 springs.

Do some searching, this particular question has been covered NUMEROUS times

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:07 pm

kc2002acr wrote:the taller tires rub on the strut perches on the stock neons, the srt4 had a higher strut perch, hence shorter springs which is why we can lower our neons with srt4 springs.

Do some searching, this particular question has been covered NUMEROUS times

no i get that, i know they rub stock struts, dante answered what i was askin, why a 205 40 is unsafe for a 6inch wide rim... i didnt think that little diff would make a difference, but i guess after doin the math a 20mm sidewall diff from 205/40 and 205/50 is significant..

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:15 pm

ok so can you safely ride any size tire on the srt rims on the 00 i always though 205-40-17 were ok

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:21 pm

dante hit it right on the head. the sidewall is what makes the difference.

Many people put 205/40's on SRT wheels. Personally I never would. If a tire manufacturer says that a specific tire needs a 7" wide wheel minimum (as the 205/40 does) then I will be using the proper width wheel.

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:38 pm

i'm so confused lol, are you guys saying its unsafe to run these rims on the stock 00 sturt/springs?

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:46 pm

thats not the issue.

the SRT wheel is 17x6. If you go to tire rack and look up a 205/40/17 tire you will see that the minimum wheel width is 7". That is the issue.

some tire places may not even mount that tire on a 6" wide wheel for liability reasons. but like i said, many people are using 205/40 or 215/40 on SRT wheels, dosn't make it safe or right, but it is being done.

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:33 am

and depending on the tire compound, a 205/40 can be damn difficult to mount and set the bead on. So much so, that ntb destroyed the paint on 2 of my old rims while doing it.

titansxt · Post by **titansxt** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:21 am

Wenuden wrote:and depending on the tire compound, a 205/40 can be damn difficult to mount and set the bead on. So much so, that ntb destroyed the paint on 2 of my old rims while doing it.

They did not use the plastic sleeve on the rod to get the tires on! NTB destroys tires all the time.

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:19 am

ok guys so i'm looking to buy these and i'm in this guys same position, i realize their heavy rims but i'm juss wondering what size tire to use for them to be safe? and my speedo will it be off i'm in km/h to guys lol

contagious18 · Post by **contagious18** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:02 am

if u get stock srt struts or struts for an srt4 u can fit a 50 series tire

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:35 pm

ok so i definatly can't fit the stock wheel size i take lol:( i got a good deal on a set with stock tires and i don't have the money to upgrade my struts/springs

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:49 pm

bump still super curious about the sizes i can use with my stock suspension, found a good deal

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:55 pm

You have to mod your struts, and even then, it might not fit.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:15 pm

With some modifications you may not feel comfortable making, stock size MAY fit. I wish I could give you a better answer, but I haven't tried it myself, nor has anyone else I know. All my friends have SRT4's (bastids) and I have K&W coil-overs.

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:20 pm

well that sucks so can i only run the 205/40's ? is there no other size

Post by **Diablo0** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:10 am

Well, here's a little comparison in hopes that it'll answer and show a lot of why it's hard and almost not possible to run SRT wheels w/ SRT sized tires with regular Neon struts. I have an SRT wheel with the original 205/50/17 g-Force T/A tire which is also nearly bald down to the wear indicators. Keep that in mind since with a new tire the tread will be thicker which makes the tire just a little bit taller.

SRT Wheel / Bald SRT sized tire on Neon suspension setup - Notice the very small gap between the tire and lower spring perch. Now, get a new tire which has thicker tread and you're coming very close to, if not rubbing the spring perch.

Neon sized tire on Neon suspension - I'm using my snow tires since they were sitting right next to me, but either way it's sized correctly for the Neon so the speedo is correct. Notice the huge gap compared to the SRT sized tire:

I'm pretty sure that strut/knuckle setup that I'm using I took off the car as once piece and they were setup at 0deg camber. If you tried to run any negative camber that would put you even closer to the lower spring perch.

So you see, with SRT sized tires, you're coming damn near close to rubbing or you are rubbing if the tires have more tread.

Now, here is a comparison of front struts...

Left = Neon Front Strut
Right = SRT Front Strut

Neon Measured from lower spring perch to welded bracket where it attaches to knuckle - 4-13/16"

SRT Strut from lower spring perch to welded bracket where it attaches to knucle - 5-1/4"

A difference of of almost 1/2" where the lower spring perch on the SRT strut is about 1/2" higher on the strut compared to the regular Neon strut.

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:43 am

i understand now ok so i gotta get me a set of srt struts/springs or juss the struts atleast :s theres another 200 bucks lol

Post by **Diablo0** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:57 am

Keep in mind by doing that your speedo will be off. Where you'll be going faster than what your sleedo says.

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:47 pm

Diablo0 wrote:Keep in mind by doing that your speedo will be off. Where you'll be going faster than what your sleedo says.

I got small tires as a mod so i would get more power and go faster (jk)

and i put stock srt rims and bigger tires on and it bent up the perch and rubbed bad (i only had them on to see what would happen as i had my coils right next to me about to be installed)