Stage Upgrades

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:40 am

If I were to get a swap done and then wanted to down the road get the stage upgrades from mopar which vin do I use for it to be specifically designed for my vin. It asks for like vin and mileage on modernperformance so would that mean I use the old vin from the wrecked srt or mine?

I wish I had the swap already...

[DJ]Tomski · Post by **[DJ]Tomski** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:00 am

use the vin from the swapped engine/wrecked srt.

Nutmeg · Post by **Nutmeg** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:35 am

[DJ]Tomski wrote:use the vin from the swapped engine/wrecked srt.

Psst: You can get more out of tuning.

Post by **Diablo0** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:54 am

[DJ]Tomski wrote:use the vin from the swapped engine/wrecked srt.

Thats not always the case

You must use the VIN number that is in the PCM. If he had the SRT PCM flashed to the VIN of his Neon to use his SKIM and keys from the Neon, then he'd need to use his Neon VIN. All depends on what VIN you use for the sentry system... if you swap everything over from the SRT like the SKIM and keys... then you'd use the SRT VIN.

[DJ]Tomski · Post by **[DJ]Tomski** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:48 am

Diablo0 wrote:
[DJ]Tomski wrote:use the vin from the swapped engine/wrecked srt.
Thats not always the case You must use the VIN number that is in the PCM. If he had the SRT PCM flashed to the VIN of his Neon to use his SKIM and keys from the Neon, then he'd need to use his Neon VIN. All depends on what VIN you use for the sentry system... if you swap everything over from the SRT like the SKIM and keys... then you'd use the SRT VIN.

ahh yes, didn't even think of that.

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:04 pm

Nutmeg wrote:
[DJ]Tomski wrote:use the vin from the swapped engine/wrecked srt.

Psst: You can get more out of tuning.

Yeah, but you have to love being able to bolt on a kit and making 330hp.

I keep clicking the damn edit button when I want to quote someone, stupid mod powers.

2001DodgeNeonSe · Post by **2001DodgeNeonSe** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:02 am

Like Diablo said use the vin the of the pcm. If your vins from the srt, its printed on the pcm.

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:59 pm

Ok so lets say for example the guy I'm buying a srt swapped car from doesn't have the VIN for the donor and has the srt keys instead of having his comp flashed... how do I get the stage upgrades?

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:22 pm

not to thread hack but i have a similar situation and would like to find out what needs to be done.. Ok i have an srt engine(dont know the vin) a stage one pcm from a different car. and i will be using my neon sentry system because i dont have any keys except for the ones that work with my car now.. Now also i learned that with stage one it doesnt even read the key system so will i need to do anything or just dont plug in that part? let me know..

krc21 · Post by **krc21** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:09 pm

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:10 am

ttt

EDIT: there must be some way.... come on 2gn members!

c987long · Post by **c987long** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:31 am

racer12306 wrote: I keep clicking the damn edit button when I want to quote someone, stupid mod powers.

ill take them off ur hands if u dont like them, i wont even charge you

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:16 pm

Is there any way to find out the VIN through the engine?

Like maybe if it were connected to some computer through dodge or anything?

This stuff is extremely foreign to me.

summy · Post by **summy** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:29 am

krc21 wrote:not to thread hack but i have a similar situation and would like to find out what needs to be done.. Ok i have an srt engine(dont know the vin) a stage one pcm from a different car. and i will be using my neon sentry system because i dont have any keys except for the ones that work with my car now.. Now also i learned that with stage one it doesnt even read the key system so will i need to do anything or just dont plug in that part? let me know..

if the stage 1 is brand new just unplug the skim and it will work

if not.. call the dealer with your NEON vin #.. and ask them for the 4 digit skim code (might need to go in and give proof of ownership). have them flash that into the used stage 1 pcm (it will know the vin # from that skim code) using their DRBIII. and voila, your car starts..

if they say this won't work, tell them they're retarded

i used this process for mine

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:58 am

so by getting the skim code it'll tell you the VIN for the srt engine?

summy · Post by **summy** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:23 pm

you can't get the skim code from the srt4 engine unless you have the vin...

i'm telling you to get the skim code for your NEON!!.. again NEON (caps for effect!!)

you don't need anything from the SRT4 unless you really want to use the srt4 skim module and steering wheel, etc

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:13 am

ok so if the car has a srt engine, transmission, suspension, but the person doesn't have the VIN for the srt engine. I can just use the VIN from the neon for stage kits???

<-- Is sooo confused.

summy · Post by **summy** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:23 am

that is correct

get the skim code from your dealer using your NEON vin

use that skim code to program the staged srt4 pcm to your NEON skim, etc (this needs to be done at a dealer using a DRBIII)

it'll work... trust me

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:54 am

just cause i'm a functional retard i'd like to reiterate for the millionth time...

if i go on modernperformance and it asks for my VIN... i just give my neon's VIN and then go to the dealer to get it installed and boom done?

datadave49 · Post by **datadave49** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:40 pm

Hey Hey
If your car has the sim you need to use your vin for any PCM be it S0 to S3 if your car does not have the sim your good to go
dave

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:51 pm

This Ya Boy wrote:just cause i'm a functional retard i'd like to reiterate for the millionth time...

if i go on modernperformance and it asks for my VIN... i just give my neon's VIN and then go to the dealer to get it installed and boom done?

no, if you order it new online from modern, you give them YOUR cars vin (it's in a window on the dash, on the door stickers, the trunk, and probably 10 other places on YOUR car {not gonna say neon like other chucklehead does cause an SRT-4 is a neon

}), then you install it yourself cause it will already have all the necesarry info in it and your dealership will charge you at least an hours worth of labor ($115 at mine) for something that will take you 30 minutes to do at home with nothing but a couple sockets. you don't even need to jack the car up, altho it does make it a bit easier to access the bottom bolts.

if, for some reason, mopar will not code a staged SRT computer to a non-SRT vin, they will most likely give modern performance a call and they will in turn call you. if this happens, I have a stage 1 computer that i will sell you that you can take to your dealer and have them install and code with YOUR cars vin (lol see above parenthases).

hopefully this was a clear, semi-concise explanation of things.

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:07 pm

thank you sooo sooo much!!!! made perfect sense.

summy · Post by **summy** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:37 pm

Wenuden wrote:
This Ya Boy wrote:just cause i'm a functional retard i'd like to reiterate for the millionth time...

if i go on modernperformance and it asks for my VIN... i just give my neon's VIN and then go to the dealer to get it installed and boom done?

no, if you order it new online from modern, you give them YOUR cars vin (it's in a window on the dash, on the door stickers, the trunk, and probably 10 other places on YOUR car {not gonna say neon like other chucklehead does cause an SRT-4 is a neon }), then you install it yourself cause it will already have all the necesarry info in it and your dealership will charge you at least an hours worth of labor ($115 at mine) for something that will take you 30 minutes to do at home with nothing but a couple sockets. you don't even need to jack the car up, altho it does make it a bit easier to access the bottom bolts.

if, for some reason, mopar will not code a staged SRT computer to a non-SRT vin, they will most likely give modern performance a call and they will in turn call you. if this happens, I have a stage 1 computer that i will sell you that you can take to your dealer and have them install and code with YOUR cars vin (lol see above parenthases).

hopefully this was a clear, semi-concise explanation of things.

chucklehead???

so if i said your neon.. and your srt4.. would you understand which car or motor i was referencing?? i'm not denying the srt4 isn't a neon, but i think anyone can figure out the difference...