Iceman intake + SRT bumper = PROBLEM!

supertrick_05 · Post by **supertrick_05** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:32 pm

Hey guys, as you know...I installed an SRT-Design bumper. I also just installed my Iceman intake today, which concerns me. I now have the intake filter RIGHT above the driver's side foglight hole, which I now am scared of hydrolock! Here's a pic of the foglight hole and filter...

I wonder what can be done to keep water out of it? If it rains, I don't want that to stop me from driving the car!

Pizza Boy · Post by **Pizza Boy** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:36 pm

i thought it was known that iceman intakes are garbage and that the guy no longer makes them or is that just for srt-4's?

ThrIsNoSpork · Post by **ThrIsNoSpork** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:42 pm

fog deletes ftw!

2k1MotorSport · Post by **2k1MotorSport** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:23 pm

ThrIsNoSpork wrote:fog deletes ftw!

03blackrt · Post by **03blackrt** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:11 pm

Pizza Boy wrote:i thought it was known that iceman intakes are garbage and that the guy no longer makes them or is that just for srt-4's?

Icemans are generally highly sought after in the 1gn and 2gn N/A world.

silverneontuner · Post by **silverneontuner** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:27 pm

you can try an AEM bypass valve. might help. or a pre filter.

Pizza Boy · Post by **Pizza Boy** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:38 pm

03blackrt wrote:
Pizza Boy wrote:i thought it was known that iceman intakes are garbage and that the guy no longer makes them or is that just for srt-4's?
Icemans are generally highly sought after in the 1gn and 2GN N/A world.

oh Ok, in the srt world they are known to be garbage and had many issues reguarding them, i never owned one so wouldn't know but n/a and forced induction cars have so may differences that anything is possible...

TN.Frank · Post by **TN.Frank** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:45 pm

Can you shorten the tube that's in the fender and get the filter out of harms way a bit better?

supertrick_05 · Post by **supertrick_05** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:54 pm

I'm not going to chop up the tube...that's not an option. I thought of fog delets, but I'd rather make my own (SRT deletes would be too thick, since they're made to replace the bezels...which I have no bezels). Not sure, but hope to have this resolved soon!

titansxt · Post by **titansxt** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:06 pm

Don't drive through puddles for one. And for the motor to be locked you would have to drive through water halfway up your rim, thats deep. If you are worried about just a little bit of water get one of these. http://www.therpmstore.com/product_info ... cts_id=367
You don't have to buy from there but its just the first place I found them at. I believe there are others out there that make the same product. You really do not need to worry about hydro locking. Just be a smart driver, I had mine on year round (its off now) and NEVER had a problem.

Iceman intakes are wanted by many Neon owners as 03blackrt said. What is wrong with them?

kevo · Post by **kevo** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:32 am

silverneontuner wrote:you can try an AEM bypass valve. might help. or a pre filter.

won't really help him in this situation. I also don't think the bypass will fit the Iceman plastic pipes.

supertrick_05 wrote:I'm not going to chop up the tube...that's not an option. I thought of fog delets, but I'd rather make my own (SRT deletes would be too thick, since they're made to replace the bezels...which I have no bezels). Not sure, but hope to have this resolved soon!

If you do not plan to cut it, you need to cover up that hole and get a splashguard. You don't have much other choices.

titansxt wrote:Don't drive through puddles for one. And for the motor to be locked you would have to drive through water halfway up your rim, thats deep. If you are worried about just a little bit of water get one of these. http://www.therpmstore.com/product_info ... cts_id=367
You don't have to buy from there but its just the first place I found them at. I believe there are others out there that make the same product. You really do not need to worry about hydro locking. Just be a smart driver, I had mine on year round (its off now) and NEVER had a problem.

Iceman intakes are wanted by many Neon owners as 03blackrt said. What is wrong with them?

I don't even think the water jacket will help just due to the fact that he will get a sort of ram air effect due to the hole. If he does not plan to get fogs (which will now cause a fitment problem) then he should just cover them up.

onewickedkid05 · Post by **onewickedkid05** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:38 am

i have an AEM bypass that im not using but i dont know if it will fit the iceman??? anyone know lol

kevo · Post by **kevo** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:27 am

onewickedkid05 wrote:i have an AEM bypass that im not using but i dont know if it will fit the iceman??? anyone know lol

don't want to crap on a potential sale for you but considering the iceman has a bulge near the TB inlet, i doubt it will work.

asanti · Post by **asanti** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:37 am

I'm not 100% familiar with the SRT-D bumpers, but if the filter will sit out in the open like that, then yes, get a pre-filter to help keep water out. Like has been said already, you'll have to drive through a huge deep puddle in order to suck up enough water to hydrolock the motor. I've had my AEM CAI on year round for 4+ years and have never had any problems with water.

Later
Allex

Post by **jonnymopar** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:40 pm

Are the SRT-4 fogs in a different place than the 03+ SXT fogs?? I've had my Iceman for as long as I've owned the car (almost 70k miles) with no problems. I've driven through many a large puddle, no bypass valve, no hydrolock, no problem.

Well, I'll say I've had no problems with *water intake* with my Iceman. I did have one serious problem with it, but that's in another thread

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BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:22 am

Someone here in 2GN used to fabricate a splash shield to help keep water out of there, I don't remember who it was though

supertrick_05 · Post by **supertrick_05** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:26 pm

Damn...guess I'm gonna have to make my own.

jckevns · Post by **jckevns** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:57 pm

wasn't Hudson_Neon making some

edit: just saw Hudson's dealer page, guess hes not making anything right now

Post by **Diablo0** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:18 pm

I really wouldn't think it'd cause much of a problem having it exposed other than getting dirty. As long as it's a wet filter and it's kept oiled the oil should repeal the water as long as you aren't driving through huge puddles and having water splash all over the front of your car.

supertrick_05 · Post by **supertrick_05** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:43 pm

But if I'm driving in the rain, there would be constant water drops going through the foglight hole...right?

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:52 pm

They shouldn't get pulled that far up the intake tube, especially after they pass thru the filter. Like Diablo said, make sure you keep it oiled if its an oil empregnated filter, and if its not, get an oiled filter.

Post by **Diablo0** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:58 pm

supertrick_05 wrote:But if I'm driving in the rain, there would be constant water drops going through the foglight hole...right?

Just a little moisture going through is okay since it'll pass through. It's when you get a lot that it causes a problem. If it were possible to put one of those AEM bypass valves in, it wouldn't do you any good since the filter has to be nearly submerged for the bypass valve to open up.

supertrick_05 · Post by **supertrick_05** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:14 pm

Yup, I got that part. I was thinking of changing the filter to a K&N anyways, so that might be a good investment.

Post by **Diablo0** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:18 pm

Yeah... as long as it's a wet filter (meaning oiled) you should be okay... just be careful about driving through huge puddles and a lot of water being tossed up on the front of the car from someone in front of you or if someone was passing. Even then I doubt it'd be enough to cause a problem.

*Not responsible for anything that does happen. Jason aka Diablo0 implies no guarantee that nothing will happen. There is always a risk that something could happen. hahaha*

jmr · Post by **jmr** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:35 pm

Use some aluminum sheet metal and make a shield that covers the lower half of the filter. Extend it so that the shild can be clamped to the pipe.

KrackstaR · Post by **KrackstaR** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:18 pm

the whole filter would have to be smerged under water, think of it as a straw with a hole in it. the only way it would get water in there if you was running it hard thru a real bad rain storm and most of the filter is dirty as hell. Then the water would fill the areas that arnt clogged allowing the water to be sucked in. Whats the weather like where you live?

supertrick_05 · Post by **supertrick_05** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:09 pm

The weather really varies, but we have gotten some really rainy years! Minnesota, btw.

Hudson_Neon · Post by **Hudson_Neon** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:44 pm

Minnesota FTW & FTL. it has it's ups and downs. i could picture this being an issue today

. unless you guys didn't get the shitty slush that we got. you said you might make some fog light deletes?

SGT BRAD · Post by **SGT BRAD** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:41 pm

prefilter ftw. all you're trying to do is ensure that the water doesn't get through the filter material. a prefilter will shed that water before it gets absorbed into the filter. puddles are your big concern, but they are a concern whether you've got fogs or not. fwiw the modern foglight kit causes a real problem with fitment of my iceman so a fog light delete might be the best choice. imho. good luck and don't sweat the hydrolock issue.

supertrick_05 · Post by **supertrick_05** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:20 pm

I'm not installing fogs in my car...I already hacked up the mounting areas on the bumper, so if and when I get rid of the car, they can't have fogs