tires leaning away from car??

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tires leaning away from car??

Post by o2bfishn » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:52 pm

hey everyone, been awhile since i last posted

anyways, the other day i was rotating my tires and i noticed that when i had the tires off the car and on the garage floor the top of the tire leaned out away from the car, all 4 wheels did this. i even checked the floor with a bubble level and it was straight. i put the level on top of the tire and it was not.

has anyone else seen this? just curious. the car doesn't drive weird or anything, i had an alignment done last year and these are new tires (6 months old, first rotation)
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Re: tires leaning away from car??

Post by MyNeonSaysHi » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:41 am

o2bfishn wrote:hey everyone, been awhile since i last posted

anyways, the other day i was rotating my tires and i noticed that when i had the tires off the car and on the garage floor the top of the tire leaned out away from the car, all 4 wheels did this. i even checked the floor with a bubble level and it was straight. i put the level on top of the tire and it was not.

has anyone else seen this? just curious. the car doesn't drive weird or anything, i had an alignment done last year and these are new tires (6 months old, first rotation)
Don't udnerstand what you are asking, if they are off the car how are they leaning towards it?

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Post by titansxt » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:47 am

Is the wear on the tires even?
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Post by o2bfishn » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:59 am

ok to be a bit more clear, when i took the front tire off the car and stood it up on its own on the garage floor next to the car the top of the tire leaned out away from the car. the tread wear was even as far as i could tell.

when i took the rear tire off from the same side that tire did the same thing. and when i did the other side of the car, ditto. they leaned away from the car.

who knows, maybe in 6 months they wont do that and then it probably is tire wear causing it, but if thats the case is there something wrong with the camber or something like that? and would that be the same on all four wheels?
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Post by Diablo0 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:26 am

I'd blame it more on the weight of the wheel itself. Most of the weight of the wheel is going to be on the outside face of the wheel since thats where the hub and spokes are which is causing it to lean in that direction.
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Post by Passt » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:19 pm

He's talking about negative camber. Did you have the whole car off the ground?
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Post by 03_SXT » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:42 pm

From what I've read and understood, Jason is correct.

The face of the wheel will have the most weight, so when the wheel is just standing by itself, it will tend to lean outwards. Almost like it wants to tip over...

Nothing to be worried about, just don't let your rims tip over, you might screw up the paint/finish on them...

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Post by o2bfishn » Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:31 pm

ahh, that makes sense. no need to worry about me scratching my rims, they already are (minor) and are stock anyway

Passt - this showed when the wheel is off the car standing up by itself

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Post by Donkeypuncher » Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:07 pm

It's mainly the offset of our fwd wheels, it puts the majority of the weight towards the face of the wheel. A rwd offset is more balanced with it's lower offset. It means nothing when it's on the car though.

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Post by MoxHair » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:01 pm

Passt wrote:He's talking about negative camber. Did you have the whole car off the ground?
Leaning away from the car would be positive camber. Leaning towards the car would be negative camber.
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Post by jetas » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:31 pm

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Post by Fuzzyneon » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:54 am

jetas wrote:negative
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Post by Donkeypuncher » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:08 am

Just to clarify, he means the wheel falls over when it's off the car sitting on a flat surface. Normal for fwd cars, abnormal for rwd cars. I'm unsure if it's the same for awd cars, but we need not worry about that.

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