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by ZeroChad » Sat May 10, 2008 7:39 pm
I have no clue what this is for? lol Hopefully its not something vital since its hasn't been connected to anything for over a year.

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by aperson » Sat May 10, 2008 8:01 pm
It's a temp sensor of some sort. I know two years ago during the winter I thought that it was for fogs and unplugged it, let the car idle for around 15 minutes and the temp gauge was 3/4 of the way up.
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by snkmug » Sat May 10, 2008 9:44 pm
its for the fog light wiring harness
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by kc2005ptgt » Sat May 10, 2008 10:58 pm
temp sensor or fog light? because I plugged my fogs into it, and no worky...
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by Donkeypuncher » Sat May 10, 2008 11:54 pm
It is an ambient air temperature sensor for the rear view mirror compass/temperature display. If you don't have the compass/temp mirror then there will be nothing connected to it.
I guess it was cheaper to build all neons with the harness. At least I know I can have a functional mirror if I ever upgrade.
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by gilly02le » Sun May 11, 2008 2:09 am
^^^ thats exactly what its for... and it uses the same sensor/plug as the intake air temperature sensor.. so if you got the special mirror and another temp sensor, you'd be good to go.. i personally think it'd be a cool upgrade, its just kinda pricey for just a mirror.
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by Donkeypuncher » Sun May 11, 2008 2:25 am
It would be more of a "junkyard special" upgrade. Not sure how common the mirror is though, I haven't seen one on a neon personally. Maybe the pt uses the same one, might have to check that out.
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by ZeroChad » Sun May 11, 2008 9:19 am
Cool. Thanks for the input guys. Yeah its actually one upgrade that I'm thinking of. The company that I work for does a lot of automotive in their other divisions. I could get a sweet deal on an auto dimming mirror.
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by gilly02le » Sun May 11, 2008 12:51 pm
i had the plain mirror when i got my car, recently i threw in an r/t mirror with the maplights, they auto-dim and its pretty nice.. but if it had the temperature and compass, that would be pretty cool.. Im trying to remember what models they came in, I think someone said r/ts with full leather package, and sunroof could have them as an option, but i could be wrong. Afaik, Town&countrys use the same compass/temp mirror.. in the fully loaded models anyway
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by racer12306 » Sun May 11, 2008 1:11 pm
The full tilt mirror should be available from your dealer for the closeout price of about $250.
That is atleast what it was a year or two ago, it probably went up since then.
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by Paul56 » Sun May 11, 2008 3:38 pm
I checked on mine this morning and it doesn't have the connector... but then again I don't have the temperature gauge in the mirror either.

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by Donkeypuncher » Sun May 11, 2008 4:56 pm
I was looking at the wiring diagrams in the FSM, and it looks like it may have only been an option with a sunroof. I'm not sure how much wiring is involved, or if you would need the sunroof harness to make it work.
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by Panhead » Mon May 12, 2008 12:18 pm
its a sensor
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by Donkeypuncher » Mon May 12, 2008 12:40 pm
03neonSE wrote:its a sensor
Read replies much?
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by gilly02le » Tue May 13, 2008 2:09 am
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by Craz1000 » Sat May 17, 2008 3:50 pm
wait hold up a sec. i dont have a sunroof or a mirror and i have that sensor.
it is an air temp sensor of some kind but i thaught it was to detect the temp of the air outside to calculate either the A/F ratio or for some sort of cooling calculation.
if this is the sensor for the mirror then is it also possible that other 05's just came with it anyway, mine is a May '05 build
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by gilly02le » Sat May 17, 2008 5:56 pm
mine only has the plug, no sensor there. I also Do Not have a sunroof.. Someone once posted which cars those came on, i think its an option on early 01 r/ts with leather, and sunroof.. hopefully Brr or someone else can say for sure.
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by Panhead » Sat May 17, 2008 11:40 pm
Donkeypuncher wrote:03neonSE wrote:its a sensor
Read replies much?
yea i do.
I have a base neon, no sunroof, no power, no map lights. I have that sensor. For all who been wondering, I looked in the service manual for 30 mins and its the Ambient Temp Sensor. The ATS is monitored by the compass temperature mirror. Basically it tells the outside temp on the compass mirror.
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by gilly02le » Sun May 18, 2008 11:00 am
We are so much further then that at this point, i guess you don't read replies. We know what its for, we want to know which models it could come on as an option, since it was not an option for my 2002Le.
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by Donkeypuncher » Sun May 18, 2008 11:39 am
Every neon has the connector, now it's just a matter of finding the ones with a temp sensor actually plugged into that connector.
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by Panhead » Sun May 18, 2008 4:05 pm
sorry, didnt see the post last night...too much lager in my system.
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by ZeroChad » Sun May 18, 2008 6:53 pm
03neonSE wrote:sorry, didnt see the post last night...too much lager in my system.
Its all good, thanks for the reply!
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by occasional demons » Sun May 18, 2008 7:37 pm
Donkeypuncher wrote:Every neon has the connector, now it's just a matter of finding the ones with a temp sensor actually plugged into that connector.
No connector here! (shrugs)
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by Donkeypuncher » Sun May 18, 2008 8:21 pm
Hmm, anyone else with an 00-01 want to check and see if they have the connector. Looks like most in this thread have an 02+. I'll check the '00 FSM and see if they list it like the '04 manual.
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by kc2005ptgt » Mon May 19, 2008 11:57 am
I have an 02 ACR (duh!), and I have the plug.

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by Diablo0 » Mon May 19, 2008 12:03 pm
00-02 the temp sensor for the mirror pretty much was a direct wire running to it with it being powered from the mirror itself. In '03+ they changed that so he temp sensor first goes to the PCM then is distributed from there up to the mirror if I remember right. I wired my temp sensor in on the white car since it originally had it before I did the swap and just ran the wiring down to the sensor from the mirror... works like a charm.
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by SOHCKing03 » Mon May 19, 2008 1:20 pm
I have the sensor.
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If that helps narrow it down lol.
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by Diablo0 » Mon May 19, 2008 1:49 pm
You have the sensor? or you have the plug for the sensor?
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by SOHCKing03 » Mon May 19, 2008 10:27 pm
Plug and sensor lol.
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