comp 400 vs crane 14

Jerome Adams · Post by **Jerome Adams** » Sat May 10, 2008 7:47 pm

I have a mag head I am P&P, shaving, etc and I just sold my mag cam so I can go a little bigger. Choices are the comp 400 or the Crane 14.

I am leaning toward the comp 400 because I have heard that you have to pull fuel at idle to run the 14 and I don't have any way of doing that. I need it to work with the stock computer.

Anybody out there running a crane 14 in an NGC without any other fuel management?

Thanks

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Sat May 10, 2008 8:00 pm

Also I've read that with the 14 there is still power to be made above the rev limiter. So if you can't bypass the limiter, its wasted. I suppose you could always use a came gear to "shift it down". Personally, I'm going with the 400. I also head that the 14 has a more drastic incline to it, so you'd almost want to upgrade to crane springs.

Jerome Adams · Post by **Jerome Adams** » Sat May 10, 2008 8:06 pm

yeah, I already have an AEM cam gear and I have mag springs, which are suffcient for the 14...

Can't believe I forgot about the rev limit thing...which is another reason I am leaning (heavily) toward the 400. I eventually want to go MS then the Crane would be better cause I could pull fuel and rev higher...but MS is many moons away.

kc2005ptgt · Post by **kc2005ptgt** » Sat May 10, 2008 10:57 pm

Go comp 400, unless you are thinking about MS in the future, or even an AFx...

Jerome Adams · Post by **Jerome Adams** » Sat May 10, 2008 11:35 pm

NGC FTL...MS is my only option and that is a ways down the road. so yeah, I will probably get the 400 and then when I get MS, I will skip right over the 14 and get something a little more wicked (assuming my build goes that far)

InfinityAudio · Post by **InfinityAudio** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:53 am

a bit a old topic and not exactly the same question but between the crane 14 and the 01 magnum cam..willl i see a big difference..also have an afx race computer, and my motor is a 01 magnum

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:38 pm

InfinityAudio wrote:a bit a old topic and not exactly the same question but between the crane 14 and the 01 magnum cam..willl i see a big difference..also have an afx race computer, and my motor is a 01 magnum

From what I've heard, the general magnum cam is just shy of a crane 10. That would probably place the 01 somewhere between the 10 and 12. I would say go for it though, as long as the afx provides someway to manage the uber-rich @ idle issue.

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:38 pm

With an 02 or earlier, you can use an apexi fuel controller, and pull fuel at idle with it. With the NGC, it'll keep adding fuel until the cam stops loping, and then it'll trip the rich code. With an NGC, you'll have a code with a big cam, and you can't fix it.

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:14 am

invujerry wrote:With an 02 or earlier, you can use an apexi fuel controller, and pull fuel at idle with it. With the NGC, it'll keep adding fuel until the cam stops loping, and then it'll trip the rich code. With an NGC, you'll have a code with a big cam, and you can't fix it.

you can fix it MS lol

zandifam · Post by **zandifam** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:57 pm

I think you'll see a huge difference between the 14 and the magnum. As far as pulling fuel at idle, i would hunt around on the other org as far as experiences. I think there are people running it without pulling fuel. They could let you know how much of a problem it is without the fuel controller.