Lets see some pics of this talon head setup.
Then lets see an underhood shot. If it came off a talon, or a 2GN talon motor, its gotta be something different. Prove me wrong.preston75052 wrote: its not a talon setup!
My 05 is going away soon. Besides, I trapped better with no muffler than I did with a muffler. Regardless, modding an NGC car is fucking retarded. I went 16.4 stock, and 16.3 with mods. I had a little higher of a trap speed without the muffler. The 98 is where its at for me. It ran a 15.8 with me, my tools, parts, 2 extra rims and tires, plus my spare.preston75052 wrote: dude,seriously,think about it,what kinda motor do think it is if it slaps right on a neon motor.your not gonna see shit!! so drop it man.there is only three people that know whats under my hood and im one of them,the other two are my wingmen,now i told you just like i told the other guys,so get off my nut!!!!
how about that 2005 sxt with no muffler,you need to worrie about that car instead of my mine. mine run's perfect,put an exhaust on your's and it might run perfect like mine!!!! no bull shit thumbup
Get to the track and get me some times, then I'll be impressed.
By the way: Wingmen, BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Your spark plug tube seals. Unbolt your coil pack, pull of your valve cover, you're going to see 4 tubes that stick straight out. One or maybe even all of them are going to be sticking up higher than normal. You could tap them down to reseat them but first go to the dealer and get a new set. It's been covered 9000 times, do a search and you'll find it. However, the head may be different since it came from a talon.preston75052 wrote: yeah i think i could do that for you.but somethings dumped oil in my spark plug chambers and i think its where the chamber hole's and the valve cover meets,i noticed a big gap in between.got any idea's big boy! Rock ON
Also, look for some blinker fluid while you're at it.
preston75052 wrote: lol..... talon car,not a talon motor.now why do i need to tap on the tubes,they are in place,i just dont have any valve cover tube seals.i wonder how long my car has been running like that.this valve cover is a R/T model i bought it when i got the car running again witch was about four months ago and i got it powder coated,i hope it didnt mess up anything.but when i loosened up the plugs the oil had drained back into the head,and when i started the car back up a shit load of smoke came out my exhaust but went away after awhile.what do you think?
how much do you want for the sxt 05 tell me a little about it. emission standard,performance,how it was treated. automatic or standard. im kinda interested in it.
i need a second car,another neon would be cool,but i really need to stop making my car a everyday driver if i want it to go further in life. you will shit if i told you how many miles its got...lol Rock ON
Eh, anything could have happened to it man, honestly. My 98 showed some signs of oil in the spark plugs, but the last time I pulled them they looked fine. Just get the spark plug tube seals, and go from there.
The 05, I want to pay off, which is $6700. Its just regular emissions, not CA, 5-speed, it has the air box lid mod, and no muffler. Transmission was replaced by Mopar at 27,000 miles, oil changes regularly, I hardly beat on it, and my fiance drives it now. It currently has 75,000 miles on it, and I've owned it since new.
Yeah you should be able to get it from an autoparts store. My car had 7 miles on it when I bought it, and I got a 6 year loan. So far its been the best, most reliable car, I bought it March 29th, 2005. Payments aren't too bad, but I work full-time.preston75052 wrote: everything sounds good,but for some reason i thought you owned it,dam if i had the money i would take over the payments but i was more looking forward to buying a car.i dont need no payments...lol to many bills already.wow so you added stuff to the car and your stilling making payments huh....i like the 5 speed though.you do got that avanage on me.this automatic shit needs to go.and i thought about converting to a standard but hell i could buy a new car.good luck on selling it thumbup
so can i get those tube seals from a autoparts store? Rock ON
So wait....this whole time your car is an auto? I'm sorry, but any race stories you have, I'm going to have to call BS on. The best times I've seen from a 2GN auto is in the 16's. If you want to get serious in going fast, go boost right now, or get a 1gn manual car.
Even still man, your car is a 16 second car witht he auto, maybe (if you have all the work done you say you do) a 15 second car. And I have a 1gn neon. I was telling you to get one if you want to build a fast car. All this work you're putting into your 2GN will be better off if you start with a better platform.preston75052 wrote: lol lol dude my shit is pretty fasted,i didnt build this car for my everyday driving,but thats what ive been doing,theres is nothing to proove to you,all i can say is come down to the track and see for yourself
dude ive seen a 1gn neon beast a viper with my own eyes at the track and no it wasnt me. you are really hard to get alone with
It's not that I'm hard to get along with, but you are making up numbers, and I'm very realistic. There is no way an auto 2GN N/A neon will beat an SRT. If you've been to the track, get me some slips, even an 1/8 mile slip.
If you would like, I could tell everyone about the convo we're having, and they'll tell you that you're full of BS. There is only one auto N/A neon I know thats in the 12's, and he has a fuckload of work done, and races in the NHRA class SuperStock or something along those lines.
Wow, you are not getting everything of what I'm saying.preston75052 wrote: i never told you any number's to begin with,and we might be talking about the same neon,and that fuckload of work your talking about,im just that close bro! im done playing your game now dude, seriously,i know you know alot about cars and thats great,but i'll always be one step ahead of you,definily when it come's down to talking about my ride! stop being a hard ass and be cool and quite having this completion with me,im trying to be a nice guy here! you have no idea what i do and stop putting down the neon's man.if your so unhappy with these types of car's than you shouldnt be on this web site.now your theating me of spreading what i say to you on this pm to everybody.ok do what you do best,and i can tell everybody how retarded we are because we want to put money in neon's. (they sure wouldnt want to know what there buddy really think's about our idea's now would they)
dont try to make people feel stupid and get a power ego,not cool,grow up friend! this is a web site to help people get idea's not to put them down and have completion,remember this!!!!!!!
You had said:
Then:now my motor is stock in the inside,pistons,cam,lifters,all that stuff is stock but will be changed for sure
Then:i got 1,500 in head work,225 is nothing to me,but i rather make a deal than blow money!!!
Then:
my 2.0L motor will eat the srt4 thats why i wont even bother getting one
comp 400 camshaft,OBX cam gears,my head i got from a friend that came off a talon eclipes
In those few quotes, you all said you have a dead stock car, then headwork that has cost you $1500, then your car (wheather its stock or not) will eat an SRT-4 which is a 2.4 liter DOHC turbocharged motor, then you said you had all this crazy head work (by the way, you can only have one OBX cam gear, and I don't know if they make a SOHC one yet) that was in a Talon somehow.
We are not talking about the same neon with a fuckload of work. The one I'm talking about is on neons.org, owned and ran by Tim Kish. It ran a 12.995@106.77 in NHRA SuperStock class.
I am nowhere near unhappy with my neon. My 98 gets 40 MPG daily, and runs a high 15. By the end of this summer, I'll be touching 14's on motor, and running 13's with spray. The only complaint I have with it, is that its starting to hurt my back when I drive it, but I do drive 40 minutes to and from work. Hopefully a set of 2GN seats will help it out. If you want to tell all of 2GN.org about how I am unhappy with the aftermarket performance of my 2GN neon, then go ahead. They already know.
My 2GN on the other hand, its been a very dependable car, and a very nice looking car, and I love it to death. But performance wise it came at a disadvantage. For one, it weighs a good bit more than a 1gn. It has a fucked up computer since its a 2003-2005, so there is no aftermarket support. If I had known any of this, I would have either bought an SRT, or a 1gn first.
Look at Sgt Brad, and Hudson_Neon. They have put a shit ton more work into their cars than you have, and look at the numbers. Sgt Brad has a 2.2 liter stroker motor, with a huge cam, and he put down 160WHP with tuning issues. Right now, although his car is bad as fuck, its not going to beat a stock SRT-4, which puts down 250WTQ and 230WHP dead stock. Your car wont beat an SRT-4, not even close, unless your car is spraying or boosted, and the SRT-4 drivers are letting you win. There are VERY FEW cars on here than can beat a stock SRT-4. I'm fairly certain all of them have power adders, and are not N/A. Infact, there is only one N/A 2GN car that I have seen run a 13, and that was someone else on neons.org that had taken a 2.4 block, and put a SOHC head on it. It ran a 13.77 on slicks, and a 14.6 on street tires.
Sorry if it sounds like I'm having a massive contest with you, but maybe you'll realize that you have to stop fronting, or prove it.
preston75052 wrote: dude,thier is no fronting,everything i said on that topic is true but i didnt name the rest of what i got,i cant remember if i said to you or someone else,but i dont show my shit,or tell,thats just me,sorry.and i will prove it to you once you come to the track,i got more then you think or more than i tell.you should come out we put on a really good show.no matter what you say the srt i leave behind,no question's ask.now you need to understand that.im not gonna ruin your rep,that not my style.i think we should get together and i'll show you around and you can see what im talking about,and no this isnt BS this is real shit.and no,no photo's
where you from bro? im from arlington,tx and i go to two tracks yellow belly racetrack and kenney dale race track.and we are taliking about that neon i seen him at the track and in video.
now there are some srt-4's that i cant take but not very few that can take me!
Here, answer these few questions about your setup, that aren't specific.
How high is your stall convertor:
What is your header:
Cam:
Your bottom end (compression ratio):
Intake System: Figure you're using a stock plastic manifold since you wanted a magnum, or a venom.
preston75052 wrote: oh i can be serious on the line too,when guys like you get out of hand,but half the time i dont need to,my car does the business.of course you goof with the guys in the stands,thats where you belong if you dont have the ride to put on the line.hell yeah i can put on a show,me and my wingmen doing 25 seconds burn-out s,people love that shit.i actully have people wanting to know where im gonna be at on saturday-nights.dont be a hater homie!
lol lol laughing3 lol lol laughing3 lol lol laughing3
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I bet you do 25 second burnouts on your street tires, and turn 17's. You don't need to put a show on at the track you dumbass. Big burnouts are for John Force guys, people that actually run fast, not dumb little ricer kids.. I do just enough of a burnout to get smoke coming up, then I dump the brake and move forward.
A goof in the stands? Every time I've gone to the track, I've ran my car. I don't go to the track unless I'm running. Come on son, I know you're getting upset, just give me a number, a trap time, something of what your car runs. Either you can't because you haven't run, or you wont because its embarrassing. By the way, the fastest I've seen a modded 2GN ATX run (with all the headwork done) is a 16.
Wingmen, thats still hilarious.
Also, if you've done all this work to your head and your car, why couldn't you figure out why you have oil on your plugs?
Haha, pretty boy, thats fucking rich. John Force style burnouts with a 17 second car is amazing Rolling Eyes . I'm amazed the ATX has enough power stock like that to even spin the tires in the water box. Just how in the fuck are you going to get me in trouble though? I guess you and your wingmen are going to drive 17 hours to MD to try and find me. Good luck. I'm sorry if you're offended at me calling you a ricer, I just call it how i see it. Great you've been married for 3 years, I've been engaged for 3, and with my girl for 4 and a half years, and she has 2 kids of her own. I don't see how I was acting immature, but if you would like to see it that way. For the record, I'm only 2 years younger than you, own my own house, and work full time as a Fiber Optical Communications Technician for a contractor for the DoD.preston75052 wrote: first off pretty boy,i do it because people like it,second you watch your mouth,you dont know me,calling people names get's people in some trouble,third,im not a ricer or a kid.ive been married for three years and got two kids.so dont run your mouth about people you dont know,your the one thats acting immuture. and i run a 12. in a 8th mile! go figure!! slap
12's in the 1/8th is good for an 18 second pass. Infact, here are 4 time slips from the last time I was out in my 98. The last run was against a smoking, oil burning Dodge Ram 50. He was running 18's.
Here's a good link on 2GN ATX drag racing, it started in 2006, but its still true.
http://forum.2GN.org/viewtopic.php?t=79 ... c&start=30
You know what, now that I think about it, not only would my 98 neon crush you, but so would my 05, the 95 NYG I had, my old s-10, and the scooter I gave my brother.
They don't even go with my car? The outlined runs were mine you dumbass. They are running and telling their times that are correct for what they run. ATX neons are slow, an SRT-4 runs atleast a 14.0 in the 1/4 mile, which is atleast a 9.0 in the 1/8th. IF you have friends that are running SRT-4's in the 1/8, and they are only running 12's, then there is something completely wrong. Maybe you need to go learn what these cars are supposed to fucking run before you start talking like you know what the fuck you are doing.Preston75052 wrote: them slips dont even go with your car's.man give them slips back to your friends. and what was the who point of giving me that link,so what its a bunch of people that race thier neon's and telling there time's.oh so let me guess, thier lieing to,rite.
and no i didnt say i was gonna come get you,that was just future advise homie!
By the way, here's my car at the track, note the slicks on the front.
I'll do what I want with my piece of shit neon. This ($1500) piece of shit neon will whoop the fuck out of whatever you really have, up and down, left and right, all day, and still get 40 mpg when I drive home. By the way, I'm not a hoe, I just happen to love sex (with women, ask my fiance). I didn't start this shit, you did talking like you know what you are talking about, when you don't know a thing. If you don't believe me, ask own3d5974, he watched me run the 15.8 pass in the 1/4, which happens to be a 10.097 in the 1/8th. Which, according to you, will whip the shit out of your ATX 2gn neon.preston75052 wrote:fuck you hoe! you really want to start some shit do you!
get that piece shit neon off my message book,them aint your slips you lieing ass motherfucker!!! you should be really glad we dont live in the same state's.i told your ass dont be calling me names you fuck fasce bitch! dude im ending this shit before you run me hot! go about yo business punk,it aint worth punk yo ass out on 2GN web site.
He seemed to be whining like a lil bitch with that line and WTF is "fasce". some one needs to drop the wrench and pick up a book. haha.
