A Few Swap Problems! HELP NEEDED!

Doing a SRT-4 Motor swap into your Neon, maybe even a 2.4... have questions about it, what you'll need or what issues you'll run into? Answers can be found in here.
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A Few Swap Problems! HELP NEEDED!

Post by Nutmeg » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:19 am

Okay, so we got her to start up, but there are a few kinks.

-Gauge flashes FUSE. The grounds seem to all be fine, and the IOD fuse in the PDC works; we tested it earlier. Ideas?

-Dome light doesn't work

- Turn signals don't work

- U110C NO FUEL LEVEL BUS MESSAGE. Solution?

-Power locks don't work, but power windows and mirrors do.

-Remote doesn't work

The engine is from an '04, my car is an '05. We swapped engine and engine bay harnesses, not dash. I'm pretty sure it will run with these problems, but of course they need to be fixed.


EDIT: All the fuses are good, so that's not a problem. I think it might be the RKE module though. Are there any solution for fixing this? I don't know how there could be any crossed wires along the lines.

ALSO: After starting it several times a few days ago, and yesterday, it won't even turn over now. Is this a SKIM issue?

HELP US PLEASE!
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Post by rushtom2 » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:48 am

Did you check all the fuses under the hood and in the dash?
Mine did the same thing. I had two blown fuses.

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Post by Nutmeg » Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:26 pm

All the ones in the dash should be fine, but I'll check the ones under the hood today. I also have to make sure all the grounds are secure.
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Post by datadave49 » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:11 pm

Hey Hey
We had the same thing but my turn sig work after we tried to get the ac working all mine came back so I would remove the dash pad and check out the thing in the middle of the dash I thing it was a little loose but that the only thing we did and it all came back we even had the srt gauge start working (they would do the test every we turn it on ) and it did only once when we try it again
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Post by Nutmeg » Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:55 am

What thing in the dash? The remote keyless entry? That was all plugged in.
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Post by datadave49 » Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:04 pm

Hey Hey
All the stuff the you have on here but the turn signals All we did was make sure the the plug for remote thing had a good connection.when we got it all back together we had the dome light come on and the remote worked and so did the trunk.The doom light even work when you open the doors thats the one thing that got me because on the 2000 we had wires that plug into the switch on the door jam and the srt harness did not have the plugs to that switch And last we also got the panic to work how we are not sure but like said all we did was remove the plug to the remote and plug back in?????
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Post by Nutmeg » Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:50 pm

Well I thought we did that, maybe all we have to do it is unplug in and put it back in. But I think we tried it and it didn't work. We don't need a new module or anything do we? Any other people know?
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Post by Diablo0 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:28 am

The RKE out of your Neon should work just fine with your original remotes. The turn signals, have you checked the bulbs (obvious, I know)? Checked the wiring plugs to see if they're getting voltage? Follow the wiring back and test it at other locations to see if you have a break anywhere. Does the turn signal on the dash work and does the relay click at all? Do the 4 ways work? Front work but no rears or vice versa?

Does the little red alarm light on the cluster blink or stay lit when you turn the car to the on position? Did it start and stay running and now it won't start at all or did it only run for a few seconds and die?
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Post by trinity_rush2001 » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:13 pm

it is possible that it could be a PCM ECm (which ever floats ur boat) problem but im not 100% i do know when i installed power windows and locks in my 00 the harness i used had a skim and my car was a non skim car and it did the same thing ur car is doing it started a few times and ran and then it would start and die and then it wouldnt even crank......i had to go to the dodge dealer and have them flash the pcm for it to work. now this may be your problem or may not like i said im not 100% but if all else fails give it a shot
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Post by Nutmeg » Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:34 pm

As far as the blinkers, the relays don't click, and the hazards don't work either. No radio as well. It just doesn't really make sense.
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hmmm...

Post by neonkev » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:50 pm

hey dude check ur main fuse its a 20A if im right but i blew mine thanks to my stupidness when a wire grounded out i had no radio no power windows and no urn signals either its an idea when i discovered it was gone u could barely tell but ya everything came back to life.


try it out maybe thats the prob

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Post by Nutmeg » Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:34 am

All the fuses have resistance as far as I could tell. Any other ideas?

Diablo0: Nothing that has to do with the turns works. The red light circle stays on. I think the engine running is the SKIM.
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Post by Nutmeg » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:23 pm

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Post by Diablo0 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:25 pm

Sounds like you do have a SKIM problem if that light stays on. As far as the turn signals... do your headlamps work and such, just not the turn signals?
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Post by hansken_yo » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:43 pm

Light staying on is a skim issue.
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Post by Nutmeg » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:42 am

Diablo0 wrote:Sounds like you do have a SKIM problem if that light stays on. As far as the turn signals... do your headlamps work and such, just not the turn signals?
We got the SKIM problem fixed at the dealer today. The headlamps work. If you turn the turns signals, nothing even clicks. The radio doesn't work either, or the remote. Don't know about brake or reverse lights. The guys at the dealership said it's the IOD fuse maybe, but the fuse has resistance. So there must be an open circuit somewhere. Any other ideas?
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Post by 2002TuRboNeoN » Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:51 pm

id check 2 see if the ground for the pcm or the engien hasrness ground(the one by the headligth is bad) my headlights flashed liek urs did and u redid 2 grounds and now the turn and radio work..i also got mine 2 start but tis soon died...maybe a skim issue not sure
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Post by Nutmeg » Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:54 am

Everything fixed. There were some loose wires in the connectors under the dash by the pedals where they come through the firewall.
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Post by hansken_yo » Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:36 pm

congrats! That is great news....

So have you been driving it around much?.... and your thoughts?
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Post by Nutmeg » Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:40 am

Oh, well it's not running yet. There are still mechanical problems.
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Post by hansken_yo » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:17 am

Oh. :(

So what is the status? What problems are yous till facing? Is it listed in another thread :rofl:
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Post by Nutmeg » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:07 pm

I gave up asking questions here because nothing here ever really solved my problem. But we have a p0508. It's like low circuit for the IAC. Basically it won't idle, and it has trouble starting. As in, you have to put it in gear, and give it a lot of gas for it to go. We are having someone who works on cars for a living come to check it out. (A mechanic).
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Post by Nutmeg » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:03 pm

Turns out, it wasn't the IAC at all, but the MAP sensor. We unplugged it and it started right up. But now the clutch isn't engaging right. Maybe just needs to be bled some more.
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Post by hansken_yo » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:11 am

We might not have all the answers.... lol... I know I never encountered some of the wire/computer issues you had so I would have no clue how to answer them... but you should post what you find for the next person that has the same or similar issues. :thumbup: I hope it all works out right in the end.

As for the clutch...Did you get the SRT pedals? You can also adjust the connector at the pedal, which you might have to do. I don't have any more suggestions on that.

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Post by soul_sword34 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:16 pm

Late bump, I know but neons.org usually has all the mechanics worked out....more than 2gn does.
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Post by snkmug » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:32 pm

yep unless you have the srt pedals and shift cables it will not work....both of these parts look the same, but are very dirrerent. If its a clutch slave problem the easiest way to fix it, is to remove the plastic plug on the front of the trans and work the clutch fork back and forth a few times....
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Post by Nutmeg » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:42 am

The swap's been running strong for months now....
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Post by snkmug » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:59 am

good deal :rockon:
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