TO SWAP OR NOT TO SWAP YOU BE THE JUDGE?

BIGSRTURBO · Post by **BIGSRTURBO** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:59 am

k guys as some of you know i have a 2001 siver ACR that i bought from my best freind [original owner] i had planned on doing a full srt-4 swap just full drivetrain and int...and leaving the outside stock looking with just coilovers and enki rpf1 rims...so ive been thinking latley about maybe racing scca instead of building a crazy straitline car..so sould i swap and be stupid fast with big turbo and all....or do full boltons all motor and keep the car original ACR? i cant make up my mind....i could build a pretty mean scca car for about 3k less than the full srt swap.....but still be street legal ...money is not a issue since i already have the full srt donor car at my house...so YOU GUYS PICK

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:18 pm

I'm confused... You sold a big turbo srt to buy an '01 acr to do a big turbo srt swap? And you still have a donor car?

BIGSRTURBO · Post by **BIGSRTURBO** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:18 pm

i got the acr because it is already 200 pounds lighter than the srt....i bought a totaled srt from my buddy and sold my srt..i can gut the ACR and get it at least 400-500 pounds lighter than my srt so that would be 10s on pump gas.... low 10s on race with the new gt3582r turbo kit im gonna use...or since its like 1 or 17 made in 2001 leave it with bolt ons and scca it...prob worth more org

Jerome Adams · Post by **Jerome Adams** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:27 pm

how can you be satisfied with a bolt on acr after having an srt 4? I vote for the swap...and since "money is not an issue" send me all you left over acr parts!

Craz1000 · Post by **Craz1000** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:38 pm

i find SCCA more satisfying than straight line... its more of a challenge and ALOT more fun

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:50 pm

If money is no issue I say screw it and get a Viper.

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:54 pm

Craz1000 wrote:i find SCCA more satisfying than straight line... its more of a challenge and ALOT more fun

I would just buy a base neon dirt cheap for the srt swap. I would just feel bad hacking an acr or r/t up when you can get a base neon dirt cheap with a blown engine.

BIGSRTURBO · Post by **BIGSRTURBO** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:56 pm

well i just got a call from my bank and i got approved for a 08 white z06 so i might be selling the ACR ...i just have to make up my mind if i want a 1200 a month car payment...

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:35 pm

buy a dirt cheap first gen and swap it

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:24 pm

hm.. After you install the tranny, engine, turbo, intercooler, pipes, and all the other stuff that make the SRT what it is, That 200lbs savings will be right out the window. You could of gutted the SRT-4 and saved yourself a bunch of trouble.

Swordfish2Cowboy · Post by **Swordfish2Cowboy** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:20 pm

Buy another ACR to drive around and swap this one. I've thought long and hard about modding and racing my R/T, and I still can't decide if I want to or not. I'm leaning towards not.

BIGSRTURBO · Post by **BIGSRTURBO** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:35 pm

kinda hard to buy another ACR...they are pretty rare...and i did have my srt-4 gutted all to hell and it was still heaver than the acr is right now.....if i gut the ACR then it will be way lighter....

Swordfish2Cowboy · Post by **Swordfish2Cowboy** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:43 pm

Well, screw it. Race SCCA. It's why you joined, isn't it? It's why I joined. Now I just have to do something about it. I don't know anything about classing system of SCCA, but you should swap it and mod the hell out of it for SCCA.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:53 pm

ACRs weighed in at an average 2550-2700lbs depending on options
SRTs were in the 2900lbs range

The SRT was heavier due to things like the turbo, bigger wheels, better brakes, intercooler, etc etc etc

I bet you could of just made your SRT lighter than an ACR Swapped Neon.

Remember an SRT is just an upgraded Neon

Swordfish2Cowboy · Post by **Swordfish2Cowboy** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:06 pm

MoxHair wrote:Remember an SRT is just an upgraded Neon

It should've been an upgraded R/T or ACR. There are two things better on the R/T compared to the SRT, one is the exhaust, and I don't remember the other. TWO THINGS!

Sorry the Vicodin is kicking in.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:13 pm

whats better about the exhaust? Its just a 2.25" pipe with a muffler

BIGSRTURBO · Post by **BIGSRTURBO** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:52 pm

MoxHair wrote:ACRs weighed in at an average 2550-2700lbs depending on options
SRTs were in the 2900lbs range

The SRT was heavier due to things like the turbo, bigger wheels, better brakes, intercooler, etc etc etc

I bet you could of just made your SRT lighter than an ACR Swapped Neon.

Remember an SRT is just an upgraded Neon

no you dont understand....it was not just gutted im talking gutted...no airbags...just driver seat...front and rear bumpersupports taken out...i took a sawzaw to the inside of the car and swis cheesed the car...and it was still 2700 pounds and i did not put the roll cage in yet ether....the ACR s body structer is not as beffy as a srt-4...the acr was not made to go 155mph...the srt was...they made up for that speed with safety....the ACR can get to 2300pounds with stripping and cutting...the ACR is the lightest 2nd gen made..there is not one lighter....no a/c no radio...no options but tcs...

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:07 pm

sounds like a huge waste to me,

but its your car.

Swordfish2Cowboy · Post by **Swordfish2Cowboy** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:20 pm

MoxHair wrote:whats better about the exhaust? Its just a 2.25" pipe with a muffler

I think the SRT-4's exhaust narrows to 2 inches at one point for a very short time to do something. Then goes back to being 2.25".

MoxHair wrote:sounds like a huge waste to me,

Don't you mean hudge?

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:55 pm

Swordfish2Cowboy wrote:
MoxHair wrote:sounds like a huge waste to me,
Don't you mean hudge?

Hudge? An iron bucket for hoisting coal or ore?

Flying_NEB · Post by **Flying_NEB** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:09 pm

does it have to be "non-turbo" to run scca? Does it have to be "stock"? Why not do both or turbo the acr and do scca? I've never run at the track, but I love hittin the twisty's.

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:34 am

That is absolutely retarded

BIGSRTURBO · Post by **BIGSRTURBO** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:14 pm

well i kept my srt guys so im just gonna race scca in the ACR.....and have the srt for the drag car.....

Jerome Adams · Post by **Jerome Adams** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:05 am

good call

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