So Im need to upgrade

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:48 am

My alternator. Ive read the alts in neons built after a certain date have a higher output. My question is how do i figure out if it was made after that date. And also if alts from another car will be a basic drop in replacement. Or atleast as minimal mods to the brakets or belts. I know someone here has to be able to chime in on this. I need to know this by the end of the week so i can know what to look for. Thanks all

jT · Post by jT » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:03 am

the alternator from a pt cruiser i've read is a direct fit replacement and is (dont quote me) 130 amps, over the neon's stock 80amp? something like that.. its on the forum somewhere

NiteHawk · Post by **NiteHawk** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:56 am

i dont remember the exact build date, but i believe it is after april 05 that neons came with 120A alternators...

search...i know its mentioned...

EDIT: Correction, May 05

http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=32 ... alternator

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:28 pm

Yea i did the search for it thats how i figured that piece of info. And the PT one is a drop in replacement? Are there any others i should look for? And how can i tell that the neon was built after May 05?

jT · Post by jT » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:46 pm

decode the VIN
check the info on the door?

evilneon02 · Post by **evilneon02** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:06 pm

will any year pt alt work or is it just some years that have the 130 alt?

glasjaw · Post by **glasjaw** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:12 pm

Someone has a link to a website with the pt alternators...im pretty sure some of them are only 100 but one of the models/years has 120 amp. I got it for mine and its an exact fit, just more copper winds in it. Unfortunately i do not recall which year i got it from.

Craz1000 · Post by **Craz1000** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:45 am

may of '05 and newer neons had the 120a alt. if you call the delaer ill give you the last 8 of my vin to get that 120a alt since mine is a may build

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:05 pm

Well thats the shit, im going to be going to junkyards 2 hours away from my house and i dnt really have the time to be waiting on the dealer and all that bs. what numbers do i need to look for on the vin. or is there any other place i can see in what month/year it was built?

Craz1000 · Post by **Craz1000** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:19 pm

on the back of your drivers doorsill theres information on the car and when it was built. you can also goto www.dodgeparts.com and state you have a 05 neon and order it though them. double check the part# and make sure its different from the '04's or ask for the part# on the forum for asking for part#'s

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:34 am

Arite i get it. Well what about the alt from a nother car fitting the neeeeon? I see the Pt one will fit, but are there any others that i shoul look for??

Craz1000 · Post by **Craz1000** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:04 pm

idk, the only ones ive heard of fitting is other 2gn's and the PT which is strainge too because the SRT-4's alt wont fit

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:14 pm

Thats odd cuz aint the PT and SRT engine the same?

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:10 am

Bumpage!!! Any one else know of any other alts that mite fit or do i have to purchase a higher output one

Craz1000 · Post by **Craz1000** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:49 am

other than the PT, may '05 or you can also get one from ohio genorator, as far as i know of

Jeremy M · Post by **Jeremy M** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:13 pm

ohio generator, iraggi, excessive amperage, stinger....etcetc

i'm running a 200a iraggi

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:29 pm

Alright but would a 120a be enough? Cuz im only pushing about 250wRMS to the sub and lights dim like crazy. I dont want to get an alt bigger than wat i need because im not going to upgrade that for a while

Craz1000 · Post by **Craz1000** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:34 am

lol i have a ~1800w rms (between the 3 amps) with my 120a and the lights dim when i have it cranked up all the way, but at the level i normally have it at the lights dont dim at all. so im sure a 250w will me more than enough, then again i also have these things installed.

Big3
2 1Farad Caps
i had my headlights replaced with HID's so i save some draw there

still without any of these just the 120a will be more than enough. you might want to do the big3 also it makes a huge difference. the A/C runs cooler, i noticed the RPM's climb a little easier, the car also seems alot more stable electrically.

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:57 am

Well i already replaced all the Grounds with 4 gauge. Should i do the + side too?

Craz1000 · Post by **Craz1000** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:40 pm

i didnt, the - side is more important because electricity flows form - to + and (almost) everything in the car goes to the chasis for ground

Jeremy M · Post by **Jeremy M** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:16 pm

u should get no dimming at all if ur just running 250w rms....i ran 1600 + another 200 +/- a few watts and my life only dimmed bad when i was fully cranked...but even with the subwoofer controls set to 0...it wasn't dimming.

double check ur connections to ur battery....recheck ur grounds

where did u ground ur amp too?

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:35 pm

I grounded it somewhere by the spare. Is there a better spot? cus that mite be whats fuckin everything up.

Jeremy M · Post by **Jeremy M** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:01 am

well the cars a unibody so there's not really any good spots....but after lots of testing i found that if u take off the back seat...the part u sit on....mount it there.....but beware of the gas tank!

that has been the best place to ground that i have found.

or the other day i seen that they grounded the tail lights i think on the left and right sides of the back fenders...if u pull back the carpet, you should see them there.

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:28 pm

If i ground it by the where the rear seatbelts mount would that be good?

Jeremy M · Post by **Jeremy M** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:32 pm

i tell u where grounded it was by the rubber black plugs that the bottom part of the seat locks into...... be sure u scrape the paint away so u have a nice connection.

i never tried it up by the seat belt bolts....but knock on it, make sure it sounds like metal and is not covered by any of that sound deadener that came with the car..should look like metal but when u knock on it it sounds like plastic or something else

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:39 pm

Alright cool. Il be doing that later today.