Regular neon on Mopar S2/S3 Coilovers

latief · Post by **latief** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:07 pm

Anyone have a picture of this? thanks !!!

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:17 pm

You mean like mine?

latief · Post by **latief** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:40 pm

That is beautiful , i was just looking at your progress thread and saw those...

how much drop did you get on these, and how is (was) the ride ? i know you sold your car, sorry to hear that

I found a used set off an SRT, i am worried that with the max 30mm (1.1 inch) drop, i'll end up with roughly the same ride hight as my stock suspension...that will truly suck

thanks!

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:00 pm

Thanks for the compliment

I'm sad to sell her, but Kyle (KRC21) will take good care of her

My car is using the S3 coil-overs for a regular Neon, not the SRT. The drop on that set was about 1.5" out of the box. The ride is incredable...increadible handling and the ride quality didn't suffer at all, imo. The Germans tend to valve their absorbers to stiffen only when needed. I highly recommend them

latief · Post by **latief** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:05 pm

hmm, i was under the impression that this was the same kit for the neon and the SRT, guess i was wrong.....

anyhow, i guess any thing is better than the soft, blown struts..lets hope it does not end up higher !!!

thanks...

Edit: Danteneon....

Do you think you could find out through your catalogues, what the height adjustment is for both Mopar Neon coilovers and SRT coilovers.... ? i am a bit confused about this .......

thanks,

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:59 pm

To be honest, I don't know what the difference is

They are the same visually, the only difference that I can think of may be the damping or spring rate (due to the extra weight?) KW's site doesn't even specify the difference.

Anyone else know?

01rtgurl · Post by **01rtgurl** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:38 pm

As far as I could tell, SRT/Neon were the same coilovers. Here's when I had my stage 2's.

Lemme see if I can find stock springs VS. "max" (allowed by warranty) on the mopars, cuz that's how I had it set for a while.

**Edit**

Part #'s off mine if you want to compare to others:
270 1002 and 270 1103 (I think 2 of each from what I can tell in my pics...)

Found the pics. Yellow = stock, red = warranty-safe coilover height (still high, which is why I said screw it, I didn't pay that much to lower my car like .5"!!).

latief · Post by **latief** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:47 pm

01rtgurl wrote:As far as I could tell, SRT/Neon were the same coilovers. Here's when I had my stage 2's.

Lemme see if I can find stock springs VS. "max" (allowed by warranty) on the mopars, cuz that's how I had it set for a while.

Do you have the part numbers for your S2? what kind of drop do you think you achieved?

I've been doing some detective work on these, and i think they are different, with the neon coilovers allowing for 10-20MMs more front and back.......

max allowed on the srt coildovers is 30 mm, which is roughly 1.1 inch ...

I managed to get an srt set for cheap, and i am wondering if i should keep them or sell them...the other alternative would be to go for srt rims and stock tires, i need rims and tires anyways...

let me know what you could find...

thanks for the pics....

Edit: Posted at the same time

Do you if yours were neon's or srt's ? do you have the mopar part number ?

the 270 -xxxx number is the same number for both s2 and s3 coilovers...

thanks , and your car looks great

Edit 2: In the first picture, are the stop rings removed?

01rtgurl · Post by **01rtgurl** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:58 pm

Stop rings are removed for the LOW pics, aka the first 2. Stop rings are intact for the comparison pics. The rear coilovers literally had TWO threads left, that's how low it was (yes, they blew, yes they are for sale lol....)

This is off my instructions:

When I ordered at the dealer, I'm pretty sure the catalog listed SRT/Neon as the same. I don't see why it would be any different really, in terms of mounting, they both mount the same. Unless you're right on how much they let it lower.... dunno!

latief · Post by **latief** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:11 pm

http://www.who-sells-it.com/cy/mopar-68 ... lsize.html

I guess, the lowering range is the same...because it seems to be 30mm for both sets...

so that means that probably the spring rates on the SRTs are higher? i dunno, how is the ride with these?

by the way, you could fix the leaky struts at KW, $60 per seal, i called today and asked ......fix them and sell them, you make more money that way!!

thanks for the input, this has been very helpful....

01rtgurl · Post by **01rtgurl** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:16 pm

latief wrote:http://www.who-sells-it.com/cy/mopar-68 ... lsize.html

I guess, the lowering range is the same...because it seems to be 30mm for both sets...

so that means that probably the spring rates on the SRTs are higher? i dunno, how is the ride with these?

by the way, you could fix the leaky struts at KW, $60 per seal, i called today and asked ......fix them and sell them, you make more money that way!!

thanks for the input, this has been very helpful....

Wow, weird, they are diff. part #'s. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

Everything I've ever seen for the KW "rebuild" is $250. I don't think you can service the struts yourself tho... can you?? I would assume only if you really know what you're doing and have all the tools/materials...

The ride was stiffer, although I think that the struts are a little soft for the spring rates. I don't remember that well tho, it's been a few years since I drove the car with them on (went to kazera springs on stock struts after)

latief · Post by **latief** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:25 pm

01rtgurl wrote:
latief wrote:http://www.who-sells-it.com/cy/mopar-68 ... lsize.html

I guess, the lowering range is the same...because it seems to be 30mm for both sets...

so that means that probably the spring rates on the SRTs are higher? i dunno, how is the ride with these?

by the way, you could fix the leaky struts at KW, $60 per seal, i called today and asked ......fix them and sell them, you make more money that way!!

thanks for the input, this has been very helpful....
Wow, weird, they are diff. part #'s. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

Everything I've ever seen for the KW "rebuild" is $250. I don't think you can service the struts yourself tho... can you?? I would assume only if you really know what you're doing and have all the tools/materials...

The ride was stiffer, although I think that the struts are a little soft for the spring rates. I don't remember that well tho, it's been a few years since I drove the car with them on (went to kazera springs on stock struts after)

No, you cant service these your self, unless you buy new struts which is CRAZY Expensive.......

I discussed this with the guy from KW today in length (such a nice guy by the way), he said it depends on the condition. but it will cost roughly $60 per seal. unless the strut is completely busted (crack in the body of the strut for example), they should be able to fix it at a maximum of $180 per strut. the ones I've got seem to have a light leak upfront, so i am hoping for the best....

It looks from all the pictures especially the directions you provided that both SRT and Neon kits lower a max of 30mm.... so why the different part numbers? maybe the SRT ones are longer? i don't know.... confusing isn't it ?

thanks .....

Edit: Aside from the higher spring perches, is the SRT regular strut higher/Taller than that of the neon ? i remember someone posting a picture of the side by side, i just cannot find it.....

latief · Post by **latief** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:23 pm

From KW!!!

We actually made the Stage 2, Stage 3, and a kit called the Stage 3 R for Mopar. Although the tune and the spring rate is custom to Mopar, these kits share our V1, V2 and V3 platform. This means that the Stage 2 Mopar kit is a height adjustable coilover with pre set dampening. Stage 3 is a height adjustable coilover with pre set compression and adjustable rebound. Stage 3 R is a height adjustable coilover with independent compression and rebound adjustment. Hopefully that helps explain the differences!

As for it being able to fit, yes, the Neon and the SRT4 share the same fitment. The tuning and spring rates are a bit different, but yes it will bolt up to a regular neon without issue.

So it is seems that ride-height and adjustment is the same, but valving and spring rate is different...i guess I'll be using these SRT coilovers on my neon after all....

01rtgurl · Post by **01rtgurl** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:04 pm

Yeah, I'd assume the SRT ones are stiffer. Good deal!

DannyBoy · Post by **DannyBoy** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:14 pm

My neon about 4 years ago.

latief · Post by **latief** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:24 pm

DannyBoy wrote:

My neon about 4 years ago.

these look really lowered ........are they the neon coilovers? and did you remove the stop rings.....

awesome car

DannyBoy · Post by **DannyBoy** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:42 pm

latief wrote:
these look really lowered ........are they the neon coilovers? and did you remove the stop rings.....

awesome car

Mopar Stage II's.

Stop rings were removed, word of advice, don't lower it this far. I made it about a year and a half than 3 of them randomly blew, lmao.

I'm happy with my kyb's and eibach springs though.