Performence

DuhNeon179 · Post by **DuhNeon179** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:29 pm

For an '03 SXT I've been looking and looking, but all im seeing is about SRT-4, are there any performance upgrades like Turbo for an SXT or something that will make my car go faster? I got the need for speed

but I can't seem to find anything that can help me make my car go faster!

thttxboy · Post by **thttxboy** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:00 pm

where have u looked??? modernperformance.com has a few things that might help but I cant help much more than that. I have a real need for speed so I'm going srt swap but that can get exspensive

c987long · Post by **c987long** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:48 pm

just the basics, intake, exhaust, tb, p&p, modern has everything, do a search for a thread called online shops, that helped me out a lot

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:54 am

You bought the wroooooooong neon model if you have a need for speed

hybrid-Srt2001 · Post by **hybrid-Srt2001** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:11 am

http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=32679

asp turbo kit. about the only way to get your car fast without swapping in an srt motor.

blue demon02 · Post by **blue demon02** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:52 am

hybrid-Srt2001 wrote:http://forum.2GN.org/viewtopic.php?t=32679

asp turbo kit. about the only way to get your car fast without swapping in an srt motor.

Spoken like a true noob

That is a great kit and a great way to go fast. But for what he asked for Modernperformance has everything you need.

It is verry possible to go fast N/A just costs four times more.

excon · Post by **excon** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:57 am

You're 17. SAVE YOUR MONEY!

I don't mean to be rude, but you're new, so i'm going to spell it out for you.

You have something in your car called a NGC. It stands for next generation computer/controller (whatever you want to call it.) It will recognize that you have mods on your car, and adjust your air to fuel ratio (among other things) to prevent drivability problems. Therefore, you will not gain more than about... say... 5 hp. IF THAT. Unless you do something drastic like a swap or a turbo which both cost THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

Re-read my first line and please stop asking questions like "how do I go fast" and "how much hp will I gain" because if you're looking to go fast, you bought the wrong car. Use this as your daily driver, and save up for something else.

p.s. you spelled performance wrong...

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:09 pm

im 18, i think the same way, i really really want to go fast in my car build up the engine and stuff, but the truth is, just make it look good, and take care of it, cuz when u get a better paying job and all that THEN look at getting into the performance... focus on paying for schooling thats what im doing as well... just a suggestion

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:16 pm

yea i added performance parts that just sounded cool like an exhaust and a intake other than its all looks and suspension, which is always fun.

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:22 pm

excon wrote:You have something in your car called a NGC. It stands for next generation computer/controller (whatever you want to call it.) It will recognize that you have mods on your car, and adjust your air to fuel ratio (among other things) to prevent drivability problems. Therefore, you will not gain more than about... say... 5 hp. IF THAT. Unless you do something drastic like a swap or a turbo which both cost THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

Prove it.

LionheartedSXT · Post by **LionheartedSXT** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:47 pm

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:05 pm

ugh... what do you need to prove? thats the real question

blue demon02 · Post by **blue demon02** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:55 pm

excon wrote: You have something in your car called a NGC. It stands for next generation computer/controller (whatever you want to call it.) It will recognize that you have mods on your car, and adjust your air to fuel ratio (among other things) to prevent drivability problems. Therefore, you will not gain more than about... say... 5 hp. IF THAT. Unless you do something drastic like a swap or a turbo which both cost THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
if you're looking to go fast, you bought the wrong car. Use this as your daily driver, and save up for something else.

Also spoken like a true noob it must be the day for noob questions and dumb wrong answers from noob's.

theTeejmiester · Post by **theTeejmiester** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:04 pm

why so much about speed and horse power? are going to take it to the track? or race??? if not then why bother.like has been said you are 17,why would you need a car that has turbo and 300 hp??
i am at the point with my car right now where i am into making it fun.and nice to look at.then at a later date when i know i am not getting in over my head i am going to do a 2.4 srt swap.and its not because i have a need for speed,its because i would like to have the experience with doing the swap and tuning a turbo car.plus i have 36k left on my warranty and my 420a is in fine shape as is.i figure paying the car off and getting another daily driver for when i do the swap is the smart thing to do so at that point it will be my toy,rather than the car me and my family needs to start every time.so if i were you i would do some suspension mods and make it fun to drive,everyone talks shit about our cars but they can be very fun to drive with some nice thought out mods/end rant

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:12 pm

DoubtedNeon wrote:ugh... what do you need to prove? thats the real question

Prove that it is the computer that limits power, rather than the lower compression ratio.

excon · Post by **excon** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:59 pm

Well, you have a point since in another new topic around here no one has seemed to have tried to increase the compression on a NGC 03+

Why is it that second gens 00-02 don't have as many problems making power? Why is it that a Honda 1.6L produces 160 hp and a neon is rated at 132? I was always told, "there's no replacement for displacement."

it must be the day for noob questions and dumb wrong answers from noob's.

...wait everyone look at his car... OH! IT'S A TURBO! Looks like you didn't choose the N/A route... how much did that cost you? $1,405... oh wait, that's just your sound system...

I think I just proved it.

DuhNeon179 · Post by **DuhNeon179** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:05 pm

Well Im not going to college, im enlisting in the Marine Corps. But yeah, I guess ill just save up, I don't know how to drive a manual that's why I bought an automatic.

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:46 am

excon wrote:Well, you have a point since in another new topic around here no one has seemed to have tried to increase the compression on a NGC 03+

Why is it that second gens 00-02 don't have as many problems making power? Why is it that a Honda 1.6L produces 160 hp and a neon is rated at 132? I was always told, "there's no replacement for displacement."

it must be the day for noob questions and dumb wrong answers from noob's.
...wait everyone look at his car... OH! IT'S A TURBO! Looks like you didn't choose the N/A route... how much did that cost you? $1,405... oh wait, that's just your sound system...

I think I just proved it.

You proved nothing because the 00-02 neons had 9.8:1 compression.

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:12 am

excon wrote:Well, you have a point since in another new topic around here no one has seemed to have tried to increase the compression on a NGC 03+

Why is it that second gens 00-02 don't have as many problems making power? Why is it that a Honda 1.6L produces 160 hp and a neon is rated at 132? I was always told, "there's no replacement for displacement."

There is also no replacement for better head and induction designs. If there was more room under the hood you could prolly make more than 132 hp. It also doesn't help that there is a giant intake manifold heater called a radiator.

As for a high compression NGC... http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=29144

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:27 am

I forgot about EJ's build.