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Post by patton98 » Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:54 pm

i put a kirk long tube header on my car which replaces the cat.....and since the cat is gone the o2 sensors havent been reading right which ultimately turns on the check engine light and nobody can mistake the smell of a rich running car......and ideas on how i can trick the comp. to show the right voltage for the o2 sensors?
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Post by Diablo0 » Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:45 pm

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Post by Wenuden » Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:35 pm

holy crap it's a fighter jet!!!
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Post by patton98 » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:28 pm

im kinda sick of ppl makn fun of my wing..... i like it and if u dont then keep ur comments to urself

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Post by krc21 » Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:39 pm

lighten up... he never said he didnt like it. he just said fighter jet..
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Post by cbjones26 » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:19 pm


that doesnt always work.. or well didnt for me. !! lasted for like 2000 miles

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Post by MoxHair » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:23 pm

Wenuden wrote:holy crap it's a fighter jet!!!
:rofl:
krc21 wrote:lighten up... he never said he didnt like it. he just said fighter jet..
:withstupid: you'd figured he'd have a sense a humor with that kind of wing.
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Post by patton98 » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:27 pm

ya u would think id have a sense of humor huh?.....sometimes i do sometimes i dont....sry for rippin ur head off....my wing does look kinda of ridiculous
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Post by INVUJerry » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:30 pm

You can try the Spark Plug non-fouler mod, but it dosen't always work. I'd try getting a high-flow cat put in the tunnel, or get used to the light.

Damn man, that wing is pretty big. I mean, it's pretty damn bad. It's god damn huge. If it was my car, I think I'd sell the wing...the car...maybe just burn it down. Almost makes you not want to drive it anymore...At least you're doing some power mods to go along with that thing. You gotta get some serious groundspeed though before you can get lift-off. I suggest nitrous next.
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Post by patton98 » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:35 pm

i was planning on selling it and getting a wing that looks like the ss cobalt wing but idk.....
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Post by INVUJerry » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:53 pm

I think the wingless look is the best, but thats just me. I hate my SXT wing, but the paint is all jacked up underneath it.
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Post by patton98 » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:12 pm

i also dont want to deal with the holes in the trunk lid if i take it off
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Post by asanti » Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:36 pm

LMFAO at the comments on this poor guy's ride :rofl: . I do believe it looks like that because his flipflop trunk's open?! I personally don't care for wings anymore but I've learned to each their own. At least he's trying to get power adders to back up the look man! :thumbup: But to the poster- get a high flow cat and at least use the upstream O2. The downstream O2 CAN be used w/ a Kirk (I'm using the same LTH) the wires just have to be lengthened to reach. As far as hiflow cats go, Magnaflow has a "spun" cat that's tiny and tucks up nicely in the tunnel. Got mine from Jeg's.

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Post by boostedblue » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:12 pm

MoxHair wrote:
Wenuden wrote:holy crap it's a fighter jet!!!
:rofl:
krc21 wrote:lighten up... he never said he didnt like it. he just said fighter jet..
:withstupid: you'd figured he'd have a sense a humor with that kind of wing.

LOL :beatstick:
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Post by OB » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:34 pm

To get back on topic... :lol:

Changing to a LTH isnt going to make the car run rich. It smells like that because your cat isn't there to clean up the raw and unburnt fuel. The 02S1/1 will read properly regardless of whether there is a cat behind it, so as long as the upstream 02S is installed in the exhaust stream the car should run just fine. The downstream 02S is there to monitor the cat and nothing else. It throws a CEL when it sees 02 levels outside a certain parameter (from the lack of cat).
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Post by patton98 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:04 am

so basically what i should do is get a high flow cat to put in behind the header and put the downstream o2 sensor after the cat????
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Post by Wenuden » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:27 am

yes.

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