get it tuned or stage 2 upgrade..

whiteSRT4 · Post by **whiteSRT4** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:31 am

ok everyone.. ive bein reading alot on what to do with my SRT4.. i hear from people that it would better of tunning my car with a cold air and down pipe and exhaust and by AMS(and im sure u guys are aware of who AMS ive personally seen some of there SRT4 and
EVOs that they have built or worked on,,,... and others say just get stage 2 upgrade with toys,,, i want to know wich would be better of... and if any one has done either of the both... and ive bein looking for prices and they both brake out about even... and if u got any ideas or edvice... it is all welcome.. thanx.. And Keep Rockin 2GN.

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:06 am

Nice first post, better than most. Most importantly, what kinda budget are you working with, and what do you want out of the car? Stage 2 will get you plug and play reliability, and some not-too-shabby numbers, but I'd never do it. For the money spent, you can get an sct tuner and flash the stock computer, an aftermarket adjustable wga, and get a nitrous express intercooler sprayer that uses nitrous (or co2), and probably have money left over. If you're local to ams, that's the route I'd go.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:35 am

Not that AMS is bad. They do good work. But they are also extremely expensive. If I were going to mod an SRT, I would do it the right way. Manage it, and put a much bigger turbo on it.

whiteSRT4 · Post by **whiteSRT4** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:49 pm

thats the thing im not sure how much i want to spend... yet... cuz dealing with skool and work and life... its a hit in my pocket... but i can come up with the cash.... i want the car as a daily driver... but still b able to punch it... and teach some lil tuners a lesson.. lol... so u guys think it would be better off... going with the stage 2 with toys....

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:03 pm

no, stage 2 is a joke. Stage 1 is the only worthwhile stage upgrade, and only then if you want to stay stock turbo and mod without getting cels. You can get all the benefits of stage 2 out of aftermarket parts for cheaper than stage 2, and still be streetable and reliable.

rushtom2 · Post by **rushtom2** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:30 pm

Just go stage 3.

summy · Post by **summy** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:56 pm

another vote for stage 1, agp wga, exhaust, intercooler and something to tune with

safc + wideband/knock gauge for example

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:11 am

rushtom2 wrote:Just go stage 3.

Or go aftermarket big turbo and save money. And get more power. And have room to grow. And....

whiteSRT4 · Post by **whiteSRT4** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:22 am

What do u guys think about the Hanh Racing... For the
SRT Turbo kit... and a buddie of mine told me to look in to methnol injection... he said i can get alot more power out of my stock turbo... is this shit tru,,, cuz.. i hurd of it before.. but i really dnt kno much about it..... does anyone got any info....

Wenuden · Post by **Wenuden** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:22 am

it all depends on your goals on what turbo setup to get. Iirc the 20g is only good to about 350hp. If you're gonna go big turbo might as well shoot for the moon and get one that can support 500hp, even if you don't tune for that much to start. Why limit yourself to a low number that you'll probably get tired of at some point?

Me personally, my plans were for a gt3067r, 28-30psi, and all the fun stuff that goes along with supporting that, and shooting for 450-500hp.

OB · Post by OB » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:18 am

No one has mentioned lag yet in this thread, which IMO is a huge part of tuning a turbo car. Do you want a 1/4 mile contender or something fun on the street and circuit? A big turbo is only as good as its spool time, which can kill circuit times and make street driving much less fun. 400-500+ whp is straight overkill for a street car IMO, even if you take it to the track often. Power output is only the beginning of building a fast car; getting traction and having a suspension and brakes to balance the package is where the real wallet damage comes into play. Tune for balance, not some hp number. A mild turbo and a good tune would be a great start IMO. Upgrade from there.

NiteHawk · Post by **NiteHawk** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:59 am

i hate to be the negative nancy in this thread, but your only choice is big turbo or nothing at all...

You wont be getting a Mopar Stage kit anytime soon........reliable source informed me that mopar is having some problems......

They're out of S1 pcm's, out of S2 injectors, out of S3 turbo's..........

leave it to mopar to muck things up

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:16 pm

The 2.4 spools bigger turbos well anyway. They are still very drivable at 400+ HP.

OB · Post by OB » Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:12 pm

Perhaps my idea of a big turbo is different from other peoples. I consider a big turbo the kind that they throw on Supras to make 1200whp. 400hp turbos are medium in my book

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:33 pm

Bigger and just plain big are 2 different things. I consider my turbo "bigger". I'll let you guess what it is.

whiteSRT4 · Post by **whiteSRT4** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:47 pm

I think i would i agree with derek... on this u guys... he proves a point... mild turbo.. and a good tune.. possibly from AMS or GRD would be a great start... knowing im a lil short on cash... rite now....

OB · Post by OB » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:28 pm

esteinmaier wrote:Bigger and just plain big are 2 different things. I consider my turbo "bigger". I'll let you guess what it is.

lol alright alright tell me. haha

summy · Post by **summy** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:38 pm

gt30 is perfectly streetable and isn't laggy IMHO..

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:02 am

OB wrote:
esteinmaier wrote:Bigger and just plain big are 2 different things. I consider my turbo "bigger". I'll let you guess what it is.
lol alright alright tell me. haha

It's a secret. I'll post up when it's running it and making lots of tire smoke.

60trim · Post by **60trim** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:02 pm

GT30R + E85 = Rice and soy sauce for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and midnight snacks.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:49 pm

Keep going... 600 would be a disappointment with the setup I'm finishing up.

NiteHawk · Post by **NiteHawk** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:16 pm

GT4088R?

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:48 pm

C'mon, nitehawk. I sell borg warners. Would I really buy a garrett to put on my car? lol

Passt · Post by **Passt** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:40 pm

60trim · Post by **60trim** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:19 am

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:20 am

Go to bullseyepower.com, and look at the s300 series. That's the most I'll tell ya.

hul kogan · Post by **hul kogan** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:25 am

(can't wait to see your project done...gonna be schweet!)

summy · Post by **summy** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:56 pm

s372 !!