Grrtrude - Ready to go

XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:06 pm

wanna know another way to get that shit off?

dry ice..

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:23 pm

..and a lot of time.

I decided not to do mine since I heard it makes the car even louder from 2 locals. Its like 30lbs though I believe.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:25 pm

Dry ice seems like it'll take longer. Heat will make the asphalt more pliable and easier to scrape up whereas cold will make it more difficult to deal with...

And yeah, that shit is HEAVY as hell. For a race car like Grrrtrude it's worth it though as every pound helps...

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:42 pm

Dry ice makes it hard as hell, and then you can just smack it with a hammer and it comes right out. I heard about a Michigan guy just waiting until it got really cold outside, and then just going out and doing work with a hammer.

There's more than one way to do it! I plan on doing it to my NYG sooner or later. Then re-installing the carpet lol.

XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:50 pm

MyNeonSaysHi wrote:..and a lot of time. I decided not to do mine since I heard it makes the car even louder from 2 locals. Its like 30lbs though I believe.

yea and mines already loud with it.

invujerry wrote:Dry ice makes it hard as hell, and then you can just smack it with a hammer and it comes right out. I heard about a Michigan guy just waiting until it got really cold outside, and then just going out and doing work with a hammer.

There's more than one way to do it! I plan on doing it to my NYG sooner or later. Then re-installing the carpet lol.

i have an article on it if anybody wants to see it.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:47 pm

One of these new 45mm BEP wastegates is now in Grrtrude. It's no taller than the old 38mm, but loads better. It's a shame such a pretty piece of art has to be stuck behind the motor and under the turbo.

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:07 pm

looks pretty.

yeah i too think it sucks that its tucked away unseen.

synviper · Post by **synviper** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:04 pm

Don't worry people will hear it scream lol.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:14 pm

haha I don't know. The exhaust is so loud it's hard to distinguish.

Post by **Canada** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:51 am

We pulled all the sound deadener off the floor of our 1st gen race car and used the dry ice method.

So much easier, cleaner and faster than a heat gun / torch and a scraper.

We bought a bag and poured it on the floor and let it sit for about 5 minutes then shoveled a bunch to the other side of the car and used a rubber mallet and hit the stuff and it cracked off and we just vacuumed it all up.

We weighed it and got 37lbs out of the first gen.

XxWhiteNeonxX · Post by **XxWhiteNeonxX** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:40 am

is it just for sound debtening?

r/tguy02 · Post by **r/tguy02** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:43 am

yes cody sound is very costly...

"deadening"

but seriously, i think it also helps insulate a bit so the cold doesnt come up through the floor as easily

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:43 am

XxWhiteNeonxX wrote:is it just for sound debtening?

WTF?

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:02 pm

Well, now it's sprayed, so it's all the same color. It looks perfectly fine now.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:55 pm

OK, exhaust manifold is ceramic coated, the manifold with wastegate, dump tube, exhaust housing, etc are all bolted up. Had to time the motor again. It was off a tooth since I didn't do it on the stand. Looks like it's getting pretty close to running.

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:55 pm

Yes. I can't wait. I bet you can't either.

BlackRoseRacing · Post by **BlackRoseRacing** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:45 am

esteinmaier wrote:OK, exhaust manifold is ceramic coated, the manifold with wastegate, dump tube, exhaust housing, etc are all bolted up. Had to time the motor again. It was off a tooth since I didn't do it on the stand. Looks like it's getting pretty close to running.

Just remember when setting up the timing, the crank arrows do not line up. If you line up the arrows the crank will be retarded aprox 2 degree's.

For anyone who is setting there timing belt, do not line up the arrows, the arrow on the oil pump has to lign up with the edge of the groove on the crank pulley and the crank arrow has to be offset from the arrow on the oil pump, this is true TDC as I found out this weekend...

When you use the crank markings, crank to oil pump, the crank is aproximately 2 1/2 deg retarded or 2 1/2 thousands below TDC......

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:54 am

Yea, I got it. With a DOHC there are more things to worry about as well. I made a tool for the cam locators, since the timing marks are on the tooth but the true location is in the valley on the cam gear.

The problem I had is that the engine and trans were laying on a tire when I threw the timing belt on and I couldn't turn the motor to verify.

At this point it is just little odds and ends that are necessary to get it all done. I need to grab a voltage regulator, blow off valve, some more boost piping, and some wire. I'll eventually need to put a speedo in it though.

srtjesse · Post by **srtjesse** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:16 pm

dude get err runnin meow lol

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:19 am

I'm getting together the odds and ends to finish it back up. I got the boost piping in yesterday. I'm redoing all the piping since the piping before was 2.25".

Anyone got a line on lots of automotive grade wire for cheap? I need a lot of 16-18 gauge in a bunch of colors.

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:20 am

Looking good!

dtjackten · Post by **dtjackten** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:19 pm

sending you a pm on the wiring erick.

Hudson_Neon · Post by **Hudson_Neon** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:12 pm

esteinmaier wrote:I'm getting together the odds and ends to finish it back up. I got the boost piping in yesterday. I'm redoing all the piping since the piping before was 2.25".

Anyone got a line on lots of automotive grade wire for cheap? I need a lot of 16-18 gauge in a bunch of colors.

so now that's 5.00... wait, i see a quarter. make that 5.25? lol

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:15 pm

Yea, I'm getting ripped off... Apparently 3.50 costs 5.25.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:27 pm

So I determined that with the 80mm TB, there are 2 different ways I can orient it on the manifold. One makes it go through the hood, and the other makes it go through the radiator. It's easier to change the radiator out to a shorter dual-pass like in an old VW than make a new hood. So that's what I'm going with.

Side advantages: Smaller fan, weighs less and draws less power. Moves radiator hoses away from the intake manifold to keep IATs down even lower.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:36 pm

Could be kind of cool to have an air scoop on the hood though.

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:37 pm

Maybe, but it would be a hole with just the throttle cable showing. It would be the opposite of awesome.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:17 pm

Yup, that'd be pretty gay.

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:57 pm

Updateeeeeeee havent been on aim to bother you about your car Lol

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:08 pm

quicksilvr wrote: I hear ya. You have any recent pictures of the car? You know, Erick is probably worse. He has another one of the most powerful Neons on 2gn, and I don't think I've EVER seen a picture of the car. Ever. I think it's red.....lol

And I got the new TB set up how I want it on the IM and painted it. VHT wrinkle FTW!