rt header

cbjones26 · Post by **cbjones26** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:09 pm

is there any diff btwn an rt header an stock header?! performance wise

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:01 pm

On a stock SE/SXT engine/piping prolly not enough to notice. It does seem to change the sound tho. I can't see why it wouldn't make a better diference with mods, but most ppl on here are going to jump on the LTH bandwagon. If you can get a used one for under $75 go for it. If you had to spend for a new one go mid length/LTH. Unless you don't want the hassle of moving the cat/o2 sensor, if you are emmisions consious. Just my $0.02

cbjones26 · Post by **cbjones26** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:10 pm

i live in ny i have to have the cat it wont pass inspection with out it!. even with the spark plug non fouler mod (that doesnt work for only around 2k miles) im asking bc i have a new magnaflow high flow cat and the stock header i have has a build in cat into the header which is bad as well or so im told! and i have found both a stock rt and a pacesetter header on here for less then 60 $

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:04 pm

So you have a stock exhaust manifold on there right now with a stock cat. converter? Just want to make sure your aren't confusing the down pipe as part of the exhaust manifold.

If so, It should be a matter of having a muffler shop cut out the old converter and weld the new one in. You don't need to change the header for that, but a borla header is the best shorty out there.

cbjones26 · Post by **cbjones26** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:18 pm

ya its all stock. its on an 00 the converter bolts to the header!. i need to take the header off to get the cat off. bc the bolts that hold the converter on broke after heating them an trying to loosen them! so im gonna take the header off with the cat and maybe put a diff header on so i dont have to drill the bolts out! where can i get a borla header? --- thats the brans muffler im looking at gettin

Post by **occasional demons** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:03 am

The R/T unit is made by Borla. If your 2000 is the ULEV it has a cat built into the manifold, and one after the manifold, so the R/T manifold will definately be an upgrade. If the Magnaflow cat isn't a direct fit unit, see if an exhaust shop can cut the flange off your original cat and weld it to the new one, so it bolts up to the R/T header. The cleaner the install appears the better the chance to pass inspection. Just hope they aren't sticklers for matching the VIN to the exhaust configuration. If they just go with tailpipe testing you may not need to worry so much about visual.
If the Pacesetter is the 1gn style you will need to get the doughnut/spring bolt set up to attach it to the cat. Examples follow:

http://tinyurl.com/5o8c94
http://tinyurl.com/6gqqh3
http://tinyurl.com/6rot53

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:16 am

Oh I see, it's another one of those special 2000 year oddities. In that case I'm not sure. I do know that magnaflow cat is OBDII compliant so emissions shouldn't be a problem.

I knew borla made the r/t header, but I thought they offered it for the non-mag with matching exhaust ports. Pacesetter is okay for replacement exhaust, but not known for any performance.

A good muffler shop could weld the cat in for you pretty easily. I would get rid of that stock pre-cat if you can though, I'm sure it's a big bottle neck on the exhaust. You could always buy a cheap ebay or obx header to save some $$.

cbjones26 · Post by **cbjones26** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:57 am

nah its direct fit for $250 it should be...lol... i only buy direct fit .. im not messin with universal shit!

ya i have a pos cat in the header that the biggest reason i want to swap it w an rt one

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:30 pm

I didn't realize that setup has a bolt in cat as well, that makes a big difference. In that case, the r/t should be a nice improvement. Even a pacesetter would probably be better.

Is the ULEV neon the one that has 2" exhaust piping as well?

my_slo_srt · Post by **my_slo_srt** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:01 pm

cbjones26 · Post by **cbjones26** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:11 pm

ill get pics an post them!

cbjones26 · Post by **cbjones26** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:55 pm

this is my junk!

torrent09 · Post by **torrent09** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:22 am

Donkeypuncher wrote:
Is the ULEV neon the one that has 2" exhaust piping as well?

yeah that is the one with the 2 inch piping.. you would probably get a big gain to if you threw a full exhaust on their with the cat and header.. because the piping would be bigger