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Post by latief » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:28 am

I found a great local deal on a set of used BBS rims (17" x 7.5). they come with bridgestone potenzas with a couple of thousand miles on the setup ....

these where on a neon RT that got recked, and the guy is selling them since he got an SRT.....these will be for $400 (these were not on the car when it got wrecked!)

my only concern is that the tires are 205 40 17...that is too thin to be installed on a 7.5 inch rim , correct?

i think the price is right, what do you guys think relating to tire width and rim width?

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Post by 04R/T » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:19 am

205/40-17 is spec'd for a rim width range of 7-8 inches.

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Post by contagious18 » Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:38 am

yea im running a 40 series tire on my 17x7.5
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Post by latief » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:05 am

contagious18 wrote:yea im running a 40 series tire on my 17x7.5
thanks,

I was more worried about the 205 aspect of the width...

should these be 215 for this kind of rim?

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Post by Danteneon » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:18 am

For a wheel that wide you should run a 215. 205 is too narrow IMO. It can be done though.
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Post by LilSparkPlug » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:48 pm

It depends on the tire manufacturer but 225 is the optimal size for a 7.5" wheel. 205 is way too narrow and some company's 215s will work.

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Post by jake_tim » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:51 pm

yeh, I would get wider tires to put on.

Stretched tires are for FnF drifters yo.
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Post by 04R/T » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:14 am

For all who say a 205/40-17 is to narrow for a 7.5 inch rim, how did you come to this conclusion? Manufacturers of this size tire designed them to fit on a rim that is 7 to 8 inches wide. If you mount them on any other width than what they specify, you release them from liability should that tire fail.

205/40-17 is NOT too narrow for a 7.5 inch wide wheel and in fact is just about the optimum width for them. Now if you're talking about how they will look on the car then it's a different story.

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Post by latief » Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:39 am

I ended it up getting these. the tire looks normal, and not stretched. Man, these BBS rims really deserve the hype, such quality looks and workmanship.

and the bridgestone potenza tires look so aggressive, although if i replace them i will go with something with more sidewall, becasue 205 40 17 sucks as a ratio anyway...

Question: this setup was put together by tirerack, which made me more comfortable about the tire and rim width issue.... they have a special kind of rim-weights for balancing, anyone know what that is called ? they look like small square weights that fit inside of the rim, as opposed to the regular weights on the outside edge of rims.......i doubt any of the local shops could replicate these, anyone know what i am talking about ?

i will post a picture of the rims later.!!!

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Post by Danteneon » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:06 am

04R/T wrote:For all who say a 205/40-17 is to narrow for a 7.5 inch rim, how did you come to this conclusion? Manufacturers of this size tire designed them to fit on a rim that is 7 to 8 inches wide. If you mount them on any other width than what they specify, you release them from liability should that tire fail.

205/40-17 is NOT too narrow for a 7.5 inch wide wheel and in fact is just about the optimum width for them. Now if you're talking about how they will look on the car then it's a different story.
It is true that the 205/40 is specified from most manufacturers to work within the 7"-8" wheel width. My opinion comes from using a 205 tire on a 7.5" wheel. There simply isn't enough tire on that wheel to make having the wider wheel worth having.

Notice I said that it was in my opinion that it was too narrow. It can work, but why limit yourself to a 205 (that you can mount on your stock 6" wheel) when you can utilize the 215 or 225? But I didn't want to imply that it can't work, simply that you shouldn't for the above reasons.

I don't always have the time to post detailed answers, sorry :lol:
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Post by LilSparkPlug » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:04 pm

I am basing it off the national generalized standards I was taught during a suspension class (for my autobody/automotive degree from a local college). I am also basing it off personal experience as well. Granted different manufacturer's tires can be mounted on varying sizes, but in my experience running a 225 on a 7.5" wheel is much safer and more performance oriented than running a 205 (which my 6" wide wheel came with from the factory).

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Post by latief » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:14 pm

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So what do you guys think ? i understand that this is not the best tire size for the neon, but it seemed like such a sweet deal....

the rims and tires are mint, ecept for one scuff on one of the rims ...they need to be washed of course

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:27 pm

They look to be in damn good shape for what you paid for em'. :)

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Post by latief » Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:55 pm

LilSparkPlug wrote:They look to be in damn good shape for what you paid for em'. :)

yes, this was a great deal, he was asking for $500, but i got them for $400. he wrecked his neon, and got an srt but could not fit them on the srt :thumbup: for some reason. i know they should fit on the srt but i did not want to convince his in case he changes his mind :lol:

these are $250 a rim, $160 a tire new !!!!! :thumbup:

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:40 pm

What is their offset that they didn't fit? And was his an ACR?

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Post by 04R/T » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:33 am

latief wrote:Question: this setup was put together by tirerack, which made me more comfortable about the tire and rim width issue.... they have a special kind of rim-weights for balancing, anyone know what that is called ? they look like small square weights that fit inside of the rim, as opposed to the regular weights on the outside edge of rims.......i doubt any of the local shops could replicate these, anyone know what i am talking about ?
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Stick on wheel weights, available at all tire shops and at auto parts stores like NAPA etc.

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Post by latief » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:15 am

LilSparkPlug wrote:What is their offset that they didn't fit? And was his an ACR?

offset 38, rim width 7.5.....

they fit fine on my stock neon, I have no idea why they did not fit on the srt...he told me something about hitting the rear calipers, but i don't think that makes sense........


04r/t, so you think all shops should have these? do they fall off vs. the resgular wheel weights?

thanks,

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Post by LilSparkPlug » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:22 pm

All shops should have those wheel weights, its the only way you can balance most wheels nowadays with the exception of steel wheels which still use the weights that attach to the lip if you will. These weights, if the surface is cleaned properly will not fall off at all. They do recommend going no faster than 55mph the first day they are stuck on to be sure they stick well. After that, you're golden. They have a very high strength adhesive on the rear of them.

Hitting the rear caliper? Yeah that makes no sense at all, but his loss your gain! :)

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Post by 04R/T » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:26 am

latief wrote:04r/t, so you think all shops should have these? do they fall off vs. the resgular wheel weights?

thanks,
Yes, any place that sells and installs tires will have them. Auto parts stores sell them to, if they don't have them in stock they can order them. This type of weight is very common.

As LilSparkPlug says, when properly installed they are permanent. The only way to remove them is to pry or knock them off.

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Post by OB » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:55 am

Those weights are more common than the clamp on type. That's all I use at work; steel wheel, aluminum, whatever. Those are the best weight option and prevent damage to the wheel during install and removal. It's a good idea to make sure the surface of the wheel is very clean before sticking them on. I go over them with a strip of duct tape to further secure them and keep them protected from water.
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Post by excon » Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:03 am

AAAGGGH! those are the wheels i've always wanted! Aren't they lightweight? 17 lbs a piece? not with tires mounted on them obviously...

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Post by OB » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:06 am

17lbs isnt light! Anything heavier than stock isnt light IMO. Not terrible for 17's though, i'll give you that. Sub-10lb 15's FTW
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