rotating wheels ?

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:10 pm

so this might be a dumb question but just wantd to know if rotating the wheels from rear to front would it mess the alignment up.

cause my rear tires have more thread than the front ones so i was wanting to rotate them but without having to do an alignment.

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:11 pm

no, it wont

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:16 pm

oh ok thanks.
ill see about rotating them tomorrow and hopefully itll all be good.

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:43 pm

just make sure that the direction of the tires is correct. you will probably have to go front to back, rather than crossing like is suggested in the owners manual.

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:08 pm

oh yeah i know i do have to go from back to front i cant do the other way.

like i once had the front onces on backwayds cause the way the tire thread is made.

but thanks for reminding me.

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:58 pm

so can someone enlighten me on this.
i rotated them this morning.,
didnt go out till a few hours ago and the alignment is perfect but if i let go of the wheel it veers to the right.

does that make sense to anyone.

jake_tim · Post by **jake_tim** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:18 pm

Just changing the tires will not mess up your alignment. Nothing in the suspension is actually being messed with. Maybe one of your wheels are unbalanced?

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:27 pm

well alrite.
thanks.
i guess if i gegt a change tomorrow ill take the fron 2 off and get them balanced and see if that was the issue of it veering right.

or maybe it was just the road.

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:53 pm

on a multilane highway does it do that on both sides of the road?

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:11 pm

the veering to the right thing well let me get back to you on that tomorrow afternoon as ill try to take it on a really straight road and then ill let u know what i see then again.

but what you got in mind.

OB · Post by OB » Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:06 am

The tread wears different from front to back. The rear tires dont steer, so their contact patch is used differently. One might be worn slightly different than the other. This can be caused by a number of things, such as road crown, weight distribution, and driving style/habits. For example, if you always turn right during your normal commute everyday, your tires will wear differently than if you always turned left on the way to work. Make sense? Obviously that is an exaggeration of a habit, but in some extreme cases that can make the difference.

Anyhow, now that i've written a paragraph; the most likely reason for the pull is a difference in inflation. Make sure the fronts are the same, and also check the rears. Any difference from left to right can cause a pull.

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:33 am

nice explanation.

and yeah i did check the inflation when i has them in the air but ill check it again later.

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:22 pm

well i checked the air on the tires and i have them set at 30 should i have them at a higher pressure.

the tires can hold 50 max.

well i drove earlier and it still pulled a little but not bad as it did last nite so im going to say its the road.

OB · Post by OB » Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:04 pm

30 is good for maximum traction, but pretty low for tire wear and fuel mileage. I'd recommend somewhere closer to 40 for the rear, maybe a hair under 40 in the front.

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:12 pm

ok how about 40 in the rear and 35 up front..

OB · Post by OB » Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:40 pm

That's what I used to run. It's a good compromise of traction vs. tire wear. Fuel mileage is going to be best at higher pressures. Since the front tires do most of the work, their pressure has more of an effect on the characteristics listed above.

If your tires have a 50psi max:

45F/45R = decent handling, great mileage and wear.

40F/40R = neutral handling, good mileage and wear.

35F/40R = good handling, decent mileage and wear.

30F/35R = great handling, poor mileage and wear.

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:47 pm

oh nice thanks for that list.
i just didnt really know that much on how air pressure affected mileage and other things.

but thanks again.

OB · Post by OB » Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:51 pm

No problem. That list is just a basic outline. Smaller pressure increments can yield different outcomes. I run 30F/34R with 44psi max tires with great results. My mileage seems about the same, while the traction and handling are excellent. I might kick them up a few psi all around to get some more ground clearance though, the low pressure makes for squating tires, which results in an extra low front lip that likes to smack every driveway!

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:53 pm

haha dont tell me about smacking the drive way.i do that plenty. i now wish my front was urethane instead of fiberglasss cause i cracked it the other day again for the millionth time. but during winter imma get me the urethane made on.

but i guess ill go with 40 rear and 35 front see how that turns out.

OB · Post by OB » Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:55 pm

Yeah, just experiment a bit. Small changes can yield good results. What suspension are you running?

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:57 pm

well rite now i just have stock struts with dropzone lowering springs.

ride quality if fine for me rite now but in time im gonig to upgrade to some adjustable coilovers or just some nice struts with new lowerin springs.

Swordfish2Cowboy · Post by **Swordfish2Cowboy** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:44 pm

I'm fairly certain it's uneven treadwear, combined with improper tire rotation. There's a reason they have you switch the left and right tires when you move them to the front. Try swapping the front two tires and see if it fixes the problem. That's what happened to me when I changed them myself, and my old boss when he went to get his tires rotated.

Also, I run 39psi in front and 43psi in back during nice days. The pressure goes down when it rains so I have more contact with the road.

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:47 pm

He probably can't switch the front two tires because low profile tires are often directional.

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:44 pm

He probably can't switch the front two tires because low profile tires are often directional

ur rite.
i cant criss cross them cause they are one direction tires.
but its cool imma just leave them as they are.

OB · Post by OB » Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:32 am

racer12306 wrote:He probably can't switch the front two tires because performance tires are often directional.

Fixed that one for ya!