Need some opinions, good or bad. (Now with engine pics)

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:57 pm

Hi guys, I recently saw this car nearby. I haven't test drove it or anything, but I have seen it in person and heard him start it up. Its a 2004 neon with a srt swap. It appears to have the suspension done as well, including the rear srt interior (not front). Has the srt transmission, some aftermarket boost guage. The guy doesn't know much about srts but it has a pretty sweet exhaust. He posted the ad for 7800, but he now wants 7000, but I offered him 6500 and he's reluctant to take that for it. I have some pictures of it and figured you could maybe help me with this. The car has 35,000 miles on it. The engine does look insanely dirty and bad. By bad I mean like it was missing an injector cover and the wires were everywhere. I have 3 pics enclosed.

Please discuss!

EDIT: here's more pics from the engine

jake_tim · Post by **jake_tim** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:57 pm

I'd pass

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:03 pm

Any reason why?

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:18 pm

Wait... he won't take 500 less than what he's asking for, you heard it run BUT it doesn't have a v.c. or plug wires? Are you sure he didn't put a CD on his stereo for ya?

Not to mention, why in the blue hell would you offer money without driving the car? Especially that much money... 6500 bucks and you can't start or drive the car. It could not even run...

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:53 pm

No no no, I am explaining this all wrong. It was pouring out so I told the guy I didn't wanna test drive it the day I saw it in person because I didn't wanna fuck something up. Its definitely a srt engine and swap, it just looks a lil sloppy. I'm going to be posting some engine pics very shortly.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:39 pm

This Ya Boy wrote: By bad I mean like it was missing a valve cover and injector cover and the wires were everywhere.

Valve cover is kind of an important thing to be missing, don't you think?

Injector cover, not so much, wires being everywhere, pretty easy to clean up.

I'd still pass...

jake_tim · Post by **jake_tim** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:27 pm

If it is a SRT swap it -may- be worth it. I would defiantly test drive it, see what it has done along with what needs to be done.

Your description made it sounds worse.

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:12 pm

Bump-o

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:51 pm

No one?

NiteHawk · Post by **NiteHawk** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:26 pm

if i could afford it, i'de be on top of that. a test drive is a must though... for one, you wanna make sure it drives right, make sure there's no abnormal sounds, make sure its spooling when it should, see what it spikes and holds, etc......

one could wonder WHY this kid's sellin it in the first place...

just be careful

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:00 pm

So NiteHawk just be getting a quick overview of the engine you think its pretty decent?

NiteHawk · Post by **NiteHawk** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:03 pm

...no idea, i cant really make it out clearly...

if you know what to look for, then inspect it yourself. look for any leaks, pull the dipstick, check for a milky deposit on it, start it up, etc...

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:22 pm

Thats what I'm afraid of... I don't know what to look for.... It looks ok to my eye but I'm very novice to the srt engine and stuff.

Any other suggestions?

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:50 pm

Just for some comedy relief...

NiteHawk wrote:pull the dipstick, check for a milky deposit on it

Matt should have mentioned that doing so in public may get you a public indecency ticket, so be careful.

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:56 pm

LOL at the above post.

EDIT: I just love how on here most people are like "go for it" while on srtforums everyone's like "get a real srt, don't do it"

Just hilarious imo.

ragek23 · Post by **ragek23** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:59 am

well i would say if the car sounds good and all get it cuz the difference between that car and a real srt4 at that point well there isn't much besides the exterior styling.

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:15 am

I'm very much considering it, just afraid of the obvious concerns.

OB · Post by OB » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:35 am

I've seen used legit SRT's go for close to that price. Kinda high for a backyard swap IMO. Especially from a guy who "doesnt know a lot about SRT's"...

Spend 10k for a decent REAL SRT-4.

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:48 am

well before you do anyting check other listings like on ebay i mean theres a guy selling a srt-4 for a buy it now of $8500 with 90K pretty sure u could talk him down to like 7k at least i mean if the person really wants to sell the car he will.

but in my opiniion just do as everyone else said test drive it and what not.

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:16 am

More info: He bought the car from a mechanice in linden nj who did the swap so its not like he did the work, supposedy a shop did it.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:18 am

It's been 5 days, have you gone back for a test drive yet?

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:19 am

More info: He bought the car from a mechanice in linden nj who did the swap so its not like he did the work, supposedy a shop did it.

did he tell u how much was spent on the swap..

j/w.

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:27 pm

He just bought the car the way it is now. Minus the intake and exhaust. It already was swapped.

TheRandom1 wrote:It's been 5 days, have you gone back for a test drive yet?

I can't find a time to go see it with school, work, and the gym lol but I'm actively talking to him.

EDIT: Should this be moved to general discussion? Just wondering.

TheRandom1 · Post by **TheRandom1** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:44 pm

Screw school, go drive it!

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:36 pm

If you are serious...

-If the oil has not been recently changed suck some out through the dipstick and send for analysis. The results will tell you a lot.

-Take it for a test drive... how does it feel to you?

-Take it to a decent independent mechanic and have that person test drive and check it over.

-Have it dyno'd.

After all that you will have some hard information upon which to make a decision. If it turns out to be basically acceptable but some items need work... you can use that as leverage to negotiate the price down.

Personally I would never purchase something like this.

What are the chances that it has been driven hard? SRT motor... yep pretty good.

The guy(s) doing the swap... what was their skill level with that kind of job? That is an unknown... who knows what sort of jackpots may be lurking in that thing.

Doesn't sound like the seller is motivated... not willing to drop even $500.

Pass for me.

jake_tim · Post by **jake_tim** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:39 pm

Paul56 wrote:If you are serious...

-If the oil has not been recently changed suck some out through the dipstick and send for analysis. The results will tell you a lot.

-Take it for a test drive... how does it feel to you?

-Take it to a decent independent mechanic and have that person test drive and check it over.

-Have it dyno'd.

After all that you will have some hard information upon which to make a decision. If it turns out to be basically acceptable but some items need work... you can use that as leverage to negotiate the price down.

Personally I would never purchase something like this.

What are the chances that it has been driven hard? SRT motor... yep pretty good.

The guy(s) doing the swap... what was their skill level with that kind of job? That is an unknown... who knows what sort of jackpots may be lurking in that thing.

Doesn't sound like the seller is motivated... not willing to drop even $500.

Pass for me.

Not to mention the motor looks like it was stored in water due to the rust and grime all over it.

c987long · Post by **c987long** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:55 pm

This Ya Boy wrote:More info: He bought the car from a mechanice in linden nj who did the swap so its not like he did the work, supposedy a shop did it.

make sure you get receipts, that will tell you, if you can find the shop that did the swap mabye try and give them a call or something, and when in doubt, take a mechanic friend with you, we all have them

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:55 pm

I have to admit regardless, its very very tempting just because its already swapped so half my trouble is gone already, but Paul56 you make some great points.

Everyone is really helping a lot I just don't know what to do for sure. I really need to find time to test drive it.

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:16 pm

for 6500-7k you could probably find a srt motor and trans and have someone swap it for you into youre car. Have it looked at by a trusted mechanic and dyno it before you make any calls it would suck to get a srt swap all effed up

This Ya Boy · Post by **This Ya Boy** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:56 pm

Fuzzyneon wrote:for 6500-7k you could probably find a srt motor and trans and have someone swap it for you into youre car. Have it looked at by a trusted mechanic and dyno it before you make any calls it would suck to get a srt swap all effed up

Not to sound weird but aren't dyno's expensive???

I know the cliche answer is that money shouldn't be so much an option when you're looking at a car blah blah...

Just wondering.

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Need some opinions, good or bad. (Now with engine pics)

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