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ok... do i have everything that i need for lowering?

Post by c987long » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:01 pm

for struts i am going with: Tokico HP Struts
http://www.modernperformance.com/produc ... 0ea7455a84

springs: Eibach Sportline lowering springs
http://www.modernperformance.com/produc ... 0ea7455a84

and camberbolts.. do i need to order two sets right?
http://www.modernperformance.com/index. ... 0ea7455a84

shorter end links quantity of 2
http://www.modernperformance.com/produc ... 72bd19b102

is there anything else that i need bushings or anyother misc things.. I want this to be done right on the first time..


thanks for the input
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Post by Neon4Life » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:13 pm

that seems just about good.

are you going to be setting up the springs and struts ur self ?
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Post by c987long » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:10 pm

i planned to, couple of friends who have done lowerning are going to help, then taking it to my buddys garage to get an alignment
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Post by Neon4Life » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:28 pm

man thats nice that u got the hookup at a alignment shop.

i was just asking cause some people pay shops to do the springs and its not really that hard.
but those options look good.
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Post by excon » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:54 pm

just curious, why are you buying camber bolts? Are you planning on some negative camber? I wouldn't bother buying camber bolts unless you want to play with it.

...but I like 0 camber.

whatever you decide to do, post pictures afterwards. I hear that some people did some with different brands and the back was lower than the front. I'm not sure if they did it wrong though...

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Post by Mr Josh Zombie » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:59 pm

buddys garage? who... my car needs aligned :lol:
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Re: ok... do i have everything that i need for lowering?

Post by blue demon02 » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:07 am

c987long wrote:for struts i am going with: Tokico HP Struts
http://www.modernperformance.com/produc ... 0ea7455a84

springs: Eibach Sportline lowering springs
http://www.modernperformance.com/produc ... 0ea7455a84

and camberbolts.. do i need to order two sets right?
http://www.modernperformance.com/index. ... 0ea7455a84

is there anything else that i need bushings or anyother misc things.. I want this to be done right on the first time..


thanks for the input
Be prepared to replace the strut top bearing. They don't last for shit and once they go they go. Do yourself a favor and replace them anyway so you don't have to take apart you stock struts at all. Trust me when I tell you that unless you have a good impact gun and some good spring compressors you will thank me on the top hats.
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Post by ZeroChad » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:11 am

I'll send ya my eibach camber kit for $15 (1 set for rear). Its brand new. I ended up not needing them with my coilovers. Shoot me a pm if you're interested.
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Post by hansken_yo » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:04 pm

excon wrote:just curious, why are you buying camber bolts? Are you planning on some negative camber? I wouldn't bother buying camber bolts unless you want to play with it.

...but I like 0 camber.
Negative camber increases handling on corners. It is noticeable and aids in getting rid of the under steer. I love to have -1 deg. on the front and rear. The only down side... if you can call it that because I love it... is that on hard corners the car will actually grip and cut in hard from over steer if you aren't expecting it.

Besides, your going to throw the camber off by lowering it anyway and the bolts make it easier to get even camber on all 4 corners.
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Re: ok... do i have everything that i need for lowering?

Post by c987long » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:00 pm

blue demon02 wrote: Be prepared to replace the strut top bearing. They don't last for shit and once they go they go. Do yourself a favor and replace them anyway so you don't have to take apart you stock struts at all. Trust me when I tell you that unless you have a good impact gun and some good spring compressors you will thank me on the top hats.
i need to replace my top hats anyways, i think that that is where my annoying squeak is coming from.. auto zone should have some right? or is there a better place?
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Post by c987long » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:41 pm

i was just looking at moderns site... should i invest in the shorter end links fro my sway bars?
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Post by King Crab » Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:49 pm

I can say from personal experience I bought and installed the shorter end-links from modern. I have heard that some people do use them and some people don't. But as far as I'm concerned it just seemed liked the right thing to do, since I was changing the suspensions height.
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Post by c987long » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:56 pm

then i will ad 2 sets of those to the list
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Post by King Crab » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:10 pm

You only need 1 set of end-links for the rear sway bar. You wont need any up front. :thumbup:

If you take a look in my profile, there's a photo of inside the rear wheel that shows the end-links.
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Post by excon » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:03 am

hansken_yo wrote:
Negative camber increases handling on corners. It is noticeable and aids in getting rid of the under steer. I love to have -1 deg. on the front and rear. The only down side... if you can call it that because I love it... is that on hard corners the car will actually grip and cut in hard from over steer if you aren't expecting it.

Besides, your going to throw the camber off by lowering it anyway and the bolts make it easier to get even camber on all 4 corners.
Do you have abnormal tire wear with -1 degree? I would imagine that it would wear the inside of the tires first. not much, but still... over time...

Don't get me wrong, negative camber is good if you are doing hard cornering and/or using it to your advantage to reduce the amount of understeer, but since I don't do that on a daily basis, I'd rather have 0 camber on all four wheels.

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