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by supertrick_05 » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:05 pm
I'm just wondering if there's a way to safely "pull" on the plug wires without ripping the wire out of the socket?
I bought some Crane FireWire plug wires and installed them this weekend. They work great, but a couple of them don't sit tightly against the valve cover, which worries me. I want them to be tight and sealed against the valve cover like the stock ones were. I was wondering if you could pull up on the wire to work the socket up the silicone tubing that goes inside the plug hole so that the tubing has to go further inside the plug hole, thus the tube sealing tight against the valve cover. If you don't know what I'm talking about, here's a shitty illustration I did. I hope this explains it...lol!

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by Swordfish2Cowboy » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:56 pm
I have no idea. It seems like it might work. Lemme go outside right quick and hack up one of my old ones.
No, doesn't seem like it will work. The opening for the wire is smaller than the opening for the connector, so if you pull on it (you'll have to have the strength of a bear) the connector might come undone from the wire. That's bad. Here is a shitty illustration:
Now that's how it is on the stock wires. Dunno how Cranes are built, but I'd imagine they'd be the same way. Seems there's a lip or something built into the boot to prevent that wire from moving at all, and ridges on the connector to keep it in place. The wire wouldn't budge for me at all until I had the entire boot split down the center. I didn't use a vice or anything, though. I'd stay away from trying to mess with it. Perhaps someone has another idea.
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by supertrick_05 » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:00 am
Yeah, I just don't wanna ruin the wires trying to pull them up, ya know? LoL!
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by lolelectricbluesxt » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:56 am
Yeah I personally broke off two of the stock ones inside my engine. They were sealed and connected a little toooo tight.
I guess I'm going to have to fix that eventually.
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by quicksilvr » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:32 am
supertrick_05 wrote:I'm just wondering if there's a way to safely "pull" on the plug wires without ripping the wire out of the socket?
I bought some Crane FireWire plug wires and installed them this weekend. They work great, but a couple of them don't sit tightly against the valve cover, which worries me. I want them to be tight and sealed against the valve cover like the stock ones were. I was wondering if you could pull up on the wire to work the socket up the silicone tubing that goes inside the plug hole so that the tubing has to go further inside the plug hole, thus the tube sealing tight against the valve cover. If you don't know what I'm talking about, here's a shitty illustration I did. I hope this explains it...lol!

I wouldn't pull on them. The Firewires don't seal tight to the VC like stock wires or some other brands. Mine never have. Only thing I'm careful of is to not spray them with water when I wash the engine bay. Other than that, they're fine.
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by racer12306 » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:39 am
Swordfish2Cowboy wrote:You're supposed to use anti-seize.
DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT USE ANTI-SEIZE ON THE PLUG WIRES
What you are actually supposed to use is dielectric grease. HUGE difference
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by fixitmattman » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:03 pm
Normally it's just a rubber boot, a little silicone spray or some lube, pull hard, and you can typically slide the boot off or adjust it how you please. I haven't tried it on the neons wires at all, but I don't suspect it's any differeant than any other wire I've pulled apart. If you don't want to wreck the good wires try it on the old ones you took off first. Unless it's the worlds shittiest crimp you won't need to worry about the terminal inside the boot coming off.
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by occasional demons » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:02 pm
racer12306 wrote:Swordfish2Cowboy wrote:You're supposed to use anti-seize.
DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT USE ANTI-SEIZE ON THE PLUG WIRES
What you are actually supposed to use is dielectric grease. HUGE difference

Anti-seize/Never-seize is full of aluminum powder. Good way to short out the plugs, and may even permantly fuck them up by bonding the aluminum to the boot and sparkplug porcelain.
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by Swordfish2Cowboy » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:00 pm
occasional demons wrote:racer12306 wrote:Swordfish2Cowboy wrote:You're supposed to use anti-seize.
DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT USE ANTI-SEIZE ON THE PLUG WIRES
What you are actually supposed to use is dielectric grease. HUGE difference

Anti-seize/Never-seize is full of aluminum powder. Good way to short out the plugs, and may even permantly fuck them up by bonding the aluminum to the boot and sparkplug porcelain.
Pfft, whatever. That lube shit you're supposed to buy for plugs is what I should've said.

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by supertrick_05 » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:49 pm
fixitmattman wrote:Normally it's just a rubber boot, a little silicone spray or some lube, pull hard, and you can typically slide the boot off or adjust it how you please.
I do have lots of silicone spray at work I could use...may try that tomorrow. Thanks!
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