"my" ticket..total BS

[scneonchic]

well this is gonna be another long rambling post but i dont have anything else to do and im still mad so yea.....here ya go...

yesterday, im out driving w/ my bf, just killing time. it was his bday and we were wating to go out to eat w/ everyone. so we take this route, that i know by heart, cuz im goign to need it in court...but anyways, we are heading towards downtown and this highway patrol gets behind me flashing lights and everything. so i pull over at the library and he get behind me and comes up to the window and asks me if i know how fast i was going?

so i was like i know i wasnt speeding, so i was going 35. he says "another officer clocked you on higway whatever (not importnat cuz you guys dont know where im at, but its like 10 miles away at the opposite end of the road that i was on when he pulled me over) going 127 in a 55" i was like WTF?? not really...but i was was just like uh its a neon, theres no way it can go that fast, he got all smart w/ me and said wel i think it can. so i said hey i can show you the engine, its STOCK, no way it can go 127MPH! i popped the hood and everything and on of the other officers closed it.

by this point, there were 3 of them surrounding me like i was gonna try to run away or something. the one that supposedly saw me do this, checked my car out, saw the front bumper and said "THIS IS THE ONE". (this is the part where i thought back on later and decided maybe it was a black srt4, one: because it was late evening and my car is so dark anyways, ppl never know that its blue and not black, two: from a distance, someone woh doenst know neons might think that the front of mine and the front of an srt4 are the same. plus an srt is capapble of 127 from what i know about them.) so by this point im crying histercally because, thats more than double the speed limit, they are supposed to arrest you and take away your liscence for that! so i wa slike great, im going to jail and i DIDNT EVEN DO IT!!!! if i did something that stupid, esp on this busy road they are talking about i would admit to it, and pay it and get it over with. but i didnt do it and no one seems to believe me.

the cops were total pricks towards me and my bf, i mean even he was upset. you guys should know, a neon CANT go 127mp, esp bone stock engine and w/ a heavy 100 pound sub and who knows how much the rest of the audio stuff weighs, plus the wieght of the rims and the body kit. i bet most stock neons could beat mine acutaually (not for long, but thats besides the point). i was so scared that they were going to arrest me esp, when they asked me to cut off the car and then pretty much surrounded me.

this was the first time i got close to argueing w/ a cop, cuz i was really pissed, i still am actually. with due reason i believe. i told the cop i have a "twin", i see it all the time when im at work. he goes to the gym right by where i work. its steel blue (my factory color, a few shaeds lighter than what ive got now), has gunmetal rims (no polished lip and they are 12 spokes not 5 doubles), chrome tyc taillights, and its realy low w/ a muffler. i dont think his car can go that fast either, but you never know. he could have engine work, but i doubt it. i aksed the cop how he knew "without a doubt" that it was me and he looked down and said "i just know, bring all the evidence you want to court"

i even called my friend corie up there because when i was supposedly doing this, i was actually at least 5 miles away from there at the mall, in a parking lot, stopped talking to him. so hes gonna go w/ me to court and be a witness, along w/ my bf since he was with me the whole time. im def. going to def. fight this in court.

if i did it, id just pay the ticket. i got a too fast for conditions ticket back in january, but i just paid that cuz i knew i did it, no biggie. but when i got a ticket for having 'illegal lights' i fought that and won, because they werent illegal. just a bunch of red tape.

i plan on seeing the video that supposedly exists of me doing this, and verify the fact that it wasnt me, as well as getting lots of pics of black srt4s, spects on srt4s and reg. base 00-02 neons, guage cluster pics, etc. they want evidence, ill bring evidence that that car cannot go that fast. lol its so ridiculous. plus i plan on finding the guy that really did this and tell him next time he plans to use the main road as his dragstrip, let me know so i can be at home or out of town or something so i dont get blamed for his shit.

AHHHH i feel a little better haha...well anways..tthats my rant of the week....hahaha...sorry to bore you guys!

[bossman]

damn that sux. I hate pigs they suck. that what i'm always afraid is getting accused of something that i didn't do. hope you get it settled and dont forget to update.

[JustANeon]

so I'm assuming this is the need for the black SRT pics and gauge clusters. Well if you want the easiest way to prove it is not you, inform them that a neons stock speed limiter is 118mph. I'll hook you up with any pictures you may need. So you're going to need a front shot and following down the drivers side and to the back

[05srt4clone]

Wow, thats all I have to say.

[mynameiskiller]

go to the local Dodge dealer and see if you can get them to issue a statement reguarding the speed limiter. stock neons WILL NOT go 127. as stated, the limiter cuts fuel at 118, and even coasting downhill at 118, you probably couldnt exceed 120. be calm, cool and well informed and you wont get fucked over in court. you seem to have been "profiled"

[Smoke]

Thats a bunch of bullshit, but if there is a video you have nothing to worry about! b/c you know damn well that cop will clerify the image to the point he could make a billboard out of it to "prove" it was you.

[2003silverneonsxt]

umm a neon can go 127 mph by the way..i did 128 on a highway in my sxt.. ..*my uncle is a cop and clocked me*

[Diablo0]

WOW... keep your cool but remember to anticipate the worst in courtroom since that officer that aparently saw you will try to twist everything in his favor. Be presentable, make a good impression on the judge which you most likely know and show that cop he doesn't know shit.

Good luck!

I know I'd be ubber pissed if I was in your situation... words probably couldn't describe how mad I would be.

[mynameiskiller]

umm a neon can go 127 mph by the way..i did 128 on a highway in my sxt.. ..*my uncle is a cop and clocked me*

um, ok, if you say so...

[Spork]

Man that really sucks. Also, make sure you ask what was used for clocking... if it was stationary laser, K band radar, or the time slide calc system. You can call operator error on the cop who clocked and get out of the ticket completely. I would even talk with the person you just spoke with and ask him to help you time things. Get a good map, memorize the streets and the times. Practice your pitch in the courtroom. Also, I would ask for legal cousil in this matter... if three cops didn't believe you, chances are the judge won't either.

[Steaks]

I mean I know my car is not a 2G and that could have changed but I have gone 131 in my car

[JustANeon]

R/T's are limited to 130 in 2gn, standard 2gns are limited to 118 or so

[MyNeonSaysHi]

That sucks so bad. When cops have nothing else to do and when its in a low crime area, all they do is start shit. This shit happens all the time though, its sad. Sorry you had to be the victim of all of this bs.

[scneonchic]

go to the local Dodge dealer and see if you can get them to issue a statement reguarding the speed limiter. stock neons WILL NOT go 127. as stated, the limiter cuts fuel at 118, and even coasting downhill at 118, you probably couldnt exceed 120. be calm, cool and well informed and you wont get fucked over in court. you seem to have been "profiled"

i have a friend (w/ a neon acutally) who is a cop for another county in SC. he has given me some very good advice on this whole thing. its become pretty obvoious, i was profiled, 2 out of the 3 cops said/did the same thing..."this car cannot go 127mp" and what i got in reply from both is a step away from the car and a quick lookover followed by "well i believe that it can" BASED ON LOOKS. i even tried to show the engine to prove my point. the officers were very rude to me, among everything else. i know its my word against his, butim going to fight this. getting a lawyer very soon, setting up an apointment tomorrow. i wouldnt go trhough all this trouble if i was guilty. im wrongfully accused and i never thought smething like this would happen tome. i thought i might be targeted for exhaust, even though mines not that loud, or something along those lines but NEVER for 127 in a 55!!!

ill be going to the dodge dealership tomorrow to see about getting official dodge specs on srt4s, base 00-02 doge neons, and also on r/ts. just for comparision. im going to fight this as far as i have to. its a $325 ticket w/ 6points. that is going to put me in the doghouse for insurance, cant remember whta its called at the moment.

the cop also did not arrest me. i should have been arrested at the very least if he did not truy believe that i did this. i also plan on possibly trying to sue...i know that sounds a bit extreme, but im going to have to take so much time out of work for a jury trial, i refuse to plead guilty to something i didnt do. i was in the wrong place at the wrong time. so ill keep you guys posted, just be careful out there, you never know when youre going to be accused of soemthing like this. i hope it never happens to any of you, this just happened a little over 24hours ago and its all i can do to stop thinking about it. court date isnt even until sept. 20th so ive got a long wait. i never thought it would happen here in lil ole aiken, sc, reteirment community...but it did, and now they are trying to force me to pay the price.

i do plan to be well prepared and versed on what im talking about. the lawyer should help alot, he can research certain things that i noticed about the whole process this cop did, it sounds to me as if he was violaiting a few codes. i dont plan to go in there like some punk kid (which they apparently thought i was) because im not, ill let you guys know how it goes. thanks for all the well wishes....it could have been alot worse, but i have a feeling this is just begining. im already afraid im going to get blamed for something else.

[Frizbe]

Good luck,
I'm with Diablo on this one, I couldn't begine to describe how pissed I'd be in your situation.
Also ask the county for the calibration record on the officers radar, I also like the 'operator error' sugesstion.

[BlackRoseRacing]

As stated earlier,
If you actually did do 127mph in a 55....
Your ass would have been handcuffed, thrown in jail and the car impounded.
But of course they did not do that, so the cop new he had the wrong car, and he did not want to look like an ass in fron of the other 2 cops.

[CU_rob]

seriously... get a lawyer. Do NOT try to fight this alone, you will get sandbagge because they won't like the way your car LOOKS.

I agree with going to the dealer, getting them to verify you as stock engine and a statement that the car is not capable of more than 118mph. I would not use this as primary defense, just ammo to discredit his claim.

Also, based on the time of day, do you have any receipts from say a gas pump, fastfood, etc. that can verify your location with respect to the scene of the clocked speed?
Any witnesses, non-family or friends, that can verify your location at a that time?

I know that the cops just saw your car and said, yep thats it, with out any proof. No doubt in my mind. I would stay away from the "twin" story, true or not, because cops get that ALL the time, unless you can get definative proof.

You need a lawyer.

[Neonix]

Unbelievable! That really sucks, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you get it all taken care of.

I also think you shouldn't go in there without a lawyer. If you were profiled (which sounds like you were) they aren't going to favor you in court either. And I also agree that you shouldn't bring up the twin thing, because to them it might sound like you're grasping at anything to get you out of it. I'd just stick to the lawyer, I'm sure he'll know what/what not to do....well.....hopefully. And most important of all, good luck and keep us updated!!

[LCPLPunk]

Can we keep the law enforcement bashing to a minimum?

I hear all this 'Pigs suck', 'cops are gay' crap and it pisses me off. I am studying to be a LE Officer for my career, and I find it very offensive that people would call all cops bad when only a few are the problem.

Will you be saying 'cops suck' when you need one?

[BlackRoseRacing]

can you give the neonchic any advise on what to do with the situation thats going on?

[LCPLPunk]

I think getting a lawyer would be the best advice.

[BlackRoseRacing]

I take it you don't want to get involved....
I don't blame you....
I was going to call 2 local DCX big wigs to help out, but then I thought that there statements might get them called to the hearing...
One of the DCX reps I know is pretty awesome and drives an AWD 2GN eclipse turbo...with tweak info from me....

[MoparMarc]

Definetly get a laywer. Hopefully things will turn out ok.
wish ya the best in this one.

[bige1030]

First, get acquitted or get the charges dismissed. You're doing the right thing by getting a lawyer. He ought to be spending time building your case. He ought to figure out how your speed was clocked and all the nitty-gritty details. He should be in contact with the prosecutor's office. If you're lucky, he can get the prosecutor's office to dismiss the charges.

Also, like everyone said, get a statement from the dealer's service department that establishes your car's maximum speed. (A mechanic at the dealer is best because he can inspect *your* particular car and say that it's stock and then use the DC stock figures for maximum speed.) If the signing mechanic can't make it to court, the least that you should do is to have the mechanic sign the statement in the presence of a notary.

Once you get acquitted or the charges dismissed, get your lawyer to sue for his fees and for lost wages. You're obviously being falsely accused, and that is definitely grounds for compensation. False arrest laws may help you here.

File a formal complaint with the police department against the ticketing officer. At the very least, it'll be on his personnel record. Your lawyer ought to be able to advise you on this.

[BlackRoseRacing]

now thats an idea....sue him and have money for all fee's and some more mods

[Smoke]

Sounds like you have yourself a pretty good plan so far, just remember to keep your kool in the court room, present yourself as profesionally as possible.

[SilverSRT05]

The best thing that you can do is research. A laywer may not be needed in a case as simple as this. When you go to court you tell them that you want a trial by jury and they will set a date. If they have said video(a scare tactic in some rural areas) it will be played at the trial. But most importantly go down to a dealership and get some one to sign stating the vehicles top speed. My dealership was very friendly about this. Remember it is costing the court tons of money to have a trial by jury and most of the time the ticket will be dismissed without having to go before the jury. But if it does come down to court you go before the judge and the prosecutor will plead his case and you then get to plead yours. It is the state burden to prove beyond a resonable doubt that it was you. I would not spend the money on an attorney for a case like this but if it is your first time to fight a case I would.

I was passed by a bike that was going 129 whiole driving in my dads Hemi Ram(Max speed is 105) and was issued the ticket. The cop gunned the bike at the same time as it was passing me and just pulled me over instead of the bike cause I was easier to catch. I went to court and it was dismissed without even going before a jury because I showed my evidence that it was not me to the judge and he dismissed it right there. If you have enough evidenceto prove that it wasnt you then all you may have to do is tell them that you want a jury trial and the judge will look at your stuff and dimsiss it right there or set a trial date.

[dblsg]

another option you have is to go talk to his comander, put a complain on them and explain the situation..... you might even get him/her to back you up.... you never know, might not even have to go to court then.

[scneonchic]

I went to court and it was dismissed without even going before a jury because I showed my evidence that it was not me to the judge and he dismissed it right there. If you have enough evidenceto prove that it wasnt you then all you may have to do is tell them that you want a jury trial and the judge will look at your stuff and dimsiss it right there or set a trial date.

what kind of evidence did you bring w/ you to court?

[sxt_003]

uh i have one question...Did they show u the radar with 127 mph on it?? If not, i would have told them everything u did, shook their hands and told them i'll hope to see u in court.

With a mph that high they have to present evidence or proof based off that since the only thing they have is that and word of mouth. At 325 and 6 points i would definately fight this, no matter how far in court u have to take it because those 6 points alone will cause your insurance to SKY ROCKET! I'd claim profiling and discrimination just like in a "race" or "gender" type deal becaues their pulling u over, witout proof of a radar, is basically based off looks. How many time has a vehicle of a totally innocent person been pulled off, aggressively talked to, and handled, then turned out not to be the car they were looking for??

With all the evidence u have...Couldn't have been in that area, neon won't go that fast, being your strongest factual evidence there shouldn't be much of a problem with getting it thrown out. Good luck though