NOS ???

DR. GONZO · Post by **DR. GONZO** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:39 pm

i don't care if i sound like a noob but what is an NGC and what would i have to do to run nitrous on my 04 R/T

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:19 pm

esteinmaier wrote:Short answer: they didn't tune it. The NGC won't go open loop like the older ECUs. So when you're on it, the ecu is aggressively trimming fuel down to 14.7:1. Tune it to 11:1 if you want, but 1000RPM into the pull, you're back at 14.7:1 and relying on the knock sensor to keep it from blowing up.

Graphite03 ran a BMW cold start injector that came on for boost. It went super rich up top. Lambostealth used a Hahn kit with a port fueler to control fuel. There are ways around the NGC, you just have to think harder, or, use megasquirt.

NGC is the type of computer that came in the 03-05 Neons. You can run any bolt-on nitrous kit on your car. You don't need any mods, but if you want to spray more than a 50 shot I'd recommend finding a timing retard controller so you don't ping and boom.

DR. GONZO · Post by **DR. GONZO** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:22 pm

cool thanks i'd probl only do a 50 shot anyway

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:30 am

n20sxt wrote:nitrous just has a bad rap, i dont think its anymore dangerous to the motor than a turbo. like you said as long as you know what your doing, you'll be fine that is if you ensure proper fuel is being delivered (just like any other forced induction), your internals can handle the power, and you dont go spray happy juicing at like 500 rpm per say. Too many people have seen the fast and the furious and are like Oh my god nitrous blows up cars! This is not true in the least bit . If you crank the boost up on a motor that cant handle it the same thing happens when you spray a extremely high shot of nitrous. l

I learned different from fast and furious Asians on crotch rockets blow up cars

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:48 am

Well of course if you add nitrous to a honda what do you think is gonna happen? lol

damnit this thread is making me decide I want nitrus on my car...gonna search to see how expensive they are now!

GreeNeons03 · Post by **GreeNeons03** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:54 am

Nitrous is illegal in Florida. So if I got it, I would get the NOS "Sneeky Pete" system and hide the bottle under my rear deck and try to hid all the lines and other stuff as best I could.

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INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:12 pm

Sneeky Pete is a tiny dry shot system, I wouldn't use it at all. You'll have to refill your bottle 1000 times and you'd get like 3 uses out of it. Honestly, a full size bottle can fit underneath your spare tire cover. And, a nitrous kit is only illegal when it is installed. You can have the bottle mounted, but if the line isn't hooked up, it's fine.

excon · Post by **excon** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:03 pm

I'm sure it's illegal in all 50 states.

GunmetalNeon · Post by **GunmetalNeon** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:52 pm

No it's not illegal in all states. In IL it isn't illegal, but in WI your car will be towed. The only way you can get away from it is if you have the line disconnected from the bottle, but the rest of the kit can be hooked up just not to the bottle.

I think if they pull you over and suspect you have nitrous you probably did a moving violation lol.

Once you run a 50 shot you'll b like....Wow I wonder what a 75-shot will do. Trust me I was there. lol

excon · Post by **excon** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:06 pm

So where you live in IL, if you have a giant NOS sticker on your honda like a ricer and you're pulled over and the officer

suspects

you have nitrous installed and asks you to pop the hood sees it you won't get a ticket?

DR. GONZO · Post by **DR. GONZO** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:02 pm

right on man so what do you have for a nitrous system

GreeNeons03 · Post by **GreeNeons03** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:23 pm

excon wrote:So where you live in IL, if you have a giant NOS sticker on your honda like a ricer and you're pulled over and the officer suspects you have nitrous installed and asks you to pop the hood sees it you won't get a ticket?

Don't you know all they need is the sticker? The sticker alone will give them 500HP without actually having a NOS system (Nitrous Oxide System system

) on their car.

DR. GONZO · Post by **DR. GONZO** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:29 pm

man everybody knows that a NOS sticker is instant HP!! LOL

excon · Post by **excon** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:25 pm

I should put one on my girl's civic

GunmetalNeon · Post by **GunmetalNeon** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:58 pm

No I've asked numerous cops and they all said that nitrous is legal in IL... Nitrous purging is another way to get the cop's attention too. You don't need a sticker......

GreeNeons03 · Post by **GreeNeons03** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:02 am

But purging doesn't add as much HP as the sticker though.

GunmetalNeon · Post by **GunmetalNeon** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:44 pm

Yeah duh!

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:08 pm

whats a good kit cost? i looked and found like 300-500 dollars is that right?

GunmetalNeon · Post by **GunmetalNeon** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:25 pm

NX is the way to go if you want to get a kit... The cheapest decent kit on the market is the NX Main line kit. The only problem with it is that it has square solenoids, but they work flawlessly. They just aren't the nice polished expensive looking ones. Those kits go for about $600-650. I used the mainline kit for a long time and it always worked fine for me and I paid $400 shipped for it off ebay.

n20sxt · Post by **n20sxt** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:20 pm

DoubtedNeon wrote:whats a good kit cost? i looked and found like 300-500 dollars is that right?

Craigslist, 250- 300 bucks for a Nx kit

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:37 pm

new kit or nothing. nitrous is too volitle when things go wrong, like a bad solenoid.

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:17 pm

racer12306 wrote:new kit or nothing. nitrous is too volitle when things go wrong, like a bad solenoid.

Especially if someone says [redneck twang] "Well, I ran this kit here for years, and last season I blew up mah motor, and tooken the nitrous off!" [/twang]. Zex kit is $600 new, I ordered mine from zex themselves and got the blow down tube and bottle bag for free.