Injector cover cut my fuel line...

Mat00ES · Post by **Mat00ES** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:49 pm

I've been smelling gas in my car for a week or so, since I replaced my thermostat. Well today, I was replacing my plugs today (another rant on the car for later), and I notice a pretty serious cut in my fuel line. Luckly, it's right on the connector to my fuel rail, so no fuel is coming out just fumes. Just wondering if this has happened to anyone before. To fix it I just removed the injector cover and Im going to replace the line sometime soon.

Ntyvirus1 · Post by **Ntyvirus1** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:34 pm

i dont see how the cover could have cut the line, the edges on it arent that sharp.

Mat00ES · Post by **Mat00ES** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:43 pm

I'll grab a picture of it tomorrow, it may be that it has been worn through over time.

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:42 pm

Mat00ES wrote:Luckly, it's right on the connector to my fuel rail, so no fuel is coming out just fumes.

There are no fumes in there, unless you run out of fuel. There is only fuel with a lot of pressure behind it. If you smell gas, then it is leaking gas. maybe not much, but it would still be fuel, prolly highly atomized fuel. I wouldn't run too much with a damaged line/connector. If it lets go a little more you will have serious issues, especially if there is an ignition source.

Mat00ES · Post by **Mat00ES** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:01 pm

Where does that line run and how hard is it to replace? I'll order the hose from the shop near my house and walk over there, and replace it in the morn if I can do it myself.

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:45 pm

It should run to the firewall. Not 100% sure how it connects at that junction. Been too long since I looked at it. You will need a disconnect tool to remove it though.

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:09 am

While we're on the topic, would it be hard replacing the fuel line with a stainless one? It'd probably be pricey, but I'm a little curious. It may buy some extra insurance while running e85.

gilly02le · Post by **gilly02le** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:52 am

The underhood fuel hose isn't very long. I'm guessing you could fab up a stainless line with a shraeder valve on one end(fuel rail end) and a fuel line quick connect on the other. You can get the ends and fuel line, at local part stores, and again, it would probably be much cheaper this way.

latief · Post by **latief** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:06 am

I have the same exact issue, but mine is not leaking (yet). this should have been something Chrysler thought of. if you don't believe me, go check your fuel line at the point where it passes under the injector cover, you will find a scar especially if you have an older neon and never changed it ....

this is a fire waiting to happen......

sneakers O'toole · Post by **sneakers O'toole** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:59 pm

mine totally has that..i noticed it a month ago when i changed my fuel rail and i've only had the cover on for about a year...oh well, electrical tape FTW!!

kstevens91 · Post by **kstevens91** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:15 pm

yea it's weird...just figured id throw my comment in i wanted to say while we're on topic haha. when ive been turning on my heat recently only for like the first 5 mins it's on ive been smelling gas...then it goes away...should i check for leaks and where?

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:21 pm

I need to see pictures of the damaged fuel lines...Mine doesn't get close to it at all...

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:58 pm

i'm with dante... mine was never even remotely close to the line

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:31 pm

Looks like the cover isn't even close, or maybe it only happens on the non-magnum valve cover, if it's any different.

latief · Post by **latief** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:53 pm

I will post a picture of this this weekend....

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:48 pm

Donkeypuncher wrote:Looks like the cover isn't even close, or maybe it only happens on the non-magnum (injector) cover, if it's any different.

I think the only difference is the lettering. I'm pretty sure my fuel line runs the same as Dante's, and I wish I had a Magnum IM. My Mancini rocker cover matches tho!

fixitmattman · Post by **fixitmattman** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:35 pm

Mine does the same. The cover is right on top of the fuel line. Hasn't cut through it, but you can see where it's cutting/rubbing into it.

You can see it in this picture:

Did it with both the stock plastic and mag intake for what it's worth.

It's far enough back where it's not going to hurt anything. If it leaked you would know as there's 50lbs of fuel pressure behind it. If you're worried about it you shouldn't have any issue cutting it behind the fitting, getting the old hose of the connector and re-sliding a fresh cut of hose over it. Wouldn't loose more than an inch of hose and there's enough slack to do it.

latief · Post by **latief** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:00 pm

yep, that is exactly how mine looks. the clearance is none existent....i think they should have modified the design.

i've seen this happen to another car once, where the fuel line broke. that was a scary site, and i was inside the car at the moment ......

Mat00ES · Post by **Mat00ES** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:43 pm

Same here, its dark now and I only have my phone, I'll see what I can do. kstevens, thats the only time I smell gas is when the heats on, also notice the gasket that sits under the windsheild was off, check that too.

EDIT:

Not to bad for a cell phone, with a flashlight and shivering.
Well, I guess my car is emo, it cuts itself.
EDIT#2: just found this pic for another thread and noticed it shows it too.

Old pic, I cleaned the bay a bit since then.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:07 am

This is interesting

I'm wondering if there is some subtle difference between the fuel rails/supply lines from years/models.

Time to do some digging me thinks.

*edit* One thing I noticed is the lines that are being cut seem to turn towards the rear of the car sooner than the magnum design.

Mat00ES · Post by **Mat00ES** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:17 am

Completely random I know, but on the back of the injector is the listing of part numbers, theres the regular 2.0, the high output 2.0 and then a listing for a 1.8 injector cover, any clue what that belongs on?

Also, can you see if you can get me a parts number or atleast a semi-correct name for the fuel line? Thank You parts god.

Ntyvirus1 · Post by **Ntyvirus1** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:32 am

1.8 = mexican neon?

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:13 am

Danteneon wrote:

Mat00ES wrote:

It looks like Dante's fuel line might be a bit longer than Mat00ES' fuel line, letting the connector rotate forward it little more giving it just a bit more clearance. maybe if you try pulling some slack to the front it may not rub. But pictures can be misleading.
Edit:
1.8 liter engines are in the export neons. The injector cover prolly just says: 1.8 16 valve. IIRC they are just smaller bore versions of the 2.0. I don't think they are like the 1.6 Mini version, but I could be wrong.

EBD,EB0=1.8L 4 Cyl 16V SEF

2k1MotorSport · Post by **2k1MotorSport** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:42 am

is there anyway to just slightly turn the fuel line to the side so it isn't touching anything?

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:02 pm

Well isn't this interesting....

It looks like there are 3 different supply lines for 2nd gen Neons

2000 Part #5278492AC...MSRP $94.20

2001 Part #5278673AA...MSRP $64.05

2002-2005 Part #5278866AC...MSRP $37.15

Of course the catalog doesn't list the differences between them

UNDERGROUND6T9 · Post by **UNDERGROUND6T9** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:45 pm

Just go to the junk yard and pick one up there, I did that for my car.

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:39 pm

UNDERGROUND6T9 wrote:Just go to the junk yard and pick one up there, I did that for my car.

Doesn't look like your's will be touching the injector cover anytime soon.

LionheartedSXT · Post by **LionheartedSXT** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:34 pm

2k1MotorSport wrote:is there anyway to just slightly turn the fuel line to the side so it isn't touching anything?

I just checked mine today, and it looks like it may have touched the line slightly because I saw some scratches on it. But before I even checked the line it really wasn't that close to the injector cover. Yes I turned mine slightly and it is now further away from it just for precaution.

Also occasional, I don't know if it is just me or the angle of the pictures but it looks like Dante and the OP's injector cover's are slightly different. Referring to the little pointed end on it close to the supply line. OP's line looks a little bit more stubby than Dante's does. Possibility that they may have differed slightly for the year or model?

Mat00ES · Post by **Mat00ES** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:27 pm

Yea, I was on break today and figured I'd mess with it. All you have to do is pull some slack and turn it at the base and its fine. I just had to tighten the 9 yr old zip tie holding the lines to together, which snapped. Luckly, I always have zip ties, duct tape and vise grips in the car.

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:48 pm

Danteneon wrote:Well isn't this interesting....

It looks like there are 3 different supply lines for 2nd gen Neons

2000 Part #5278492AC...MSRP $94.20

2001 Part #5278673AA...MSRP $64.05

2002-2005 Part #5278866AC...MSRP $37.15

Of course the catalog doesn't list the differences between them

Eh, we now know year what to ask for! Just take the old one to be sure the connectors/length are the same.

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