03 front end to 05 front end with fog's

NEON PARABOLA · Post by **NEON PARABOLA** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:29 pm

Hey,
just discovered a huge crack in my front bumper today, so I wana upgrade to a SXT front bumper with the fog light ports. will I need anything else other then what my current bumper has? (grille mouldings,turn signal lenzes, etc) also, this should be a exact fit, right? I dont do splice n dice on my car LOL Im looing at this one on ebay, any thaughts,comments?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-PAI ... 240%3A1318

and, lastly,are there any online websites selling the mopar lip kit and side skirts? ive been looking, but damn their hard to find

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Bluerocketsneeks · Post by **Bluerocketsneeks** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:33 pm

NEON PARABOLA wrote:Hey,
just discovered a huge crack in my front bumper today, so I wana upgrade to a SXT front bumper with the fog light ports. will I need anything else other then what my current bumper has? (grille mouldings,turn signal lenzes, etc) also, this should be a exact fit, right? I dont do splice n dice on my car LOL Im looing at this one on ebay, any thaughts,comments?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-PAI ... 240%3A1318

and, lastly,are there any online websites selling the mopar lip kit and side skirts? ive been looking, but damn their hard to find [/url]

the bumpers are the same... you might have to do some custom work hooking up fogs though.. depending if you want to hook them up OEM or aftermarket style

NEON PARABOLA · Post by **NEON PARABOLA** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:22 pm

im getin a set of fogs from auto zone I like, which will be interesting.... ive never done car electrical work before... eep!

Bluerocketsneeks · Post by **Bluerocketsneeks** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:25 pm

NEON PARABOLA wrote:im getin a set of fogs from auto zone I like, which will be interesting.... ive never done car electrical work before... eep!

then your going to have to mount an toggle switch somewhere inside the car... If I were you I would just figure out how to wire them up OEM style with OEM lights

Your car would look better without fogs then with cheap looking aftermarket fogs

Graphite SRT · Post by **Graphite SRT** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:32 pm

if your going to buy a painted bumper off ebay get it from D&H autoparts they will get you the bumper in about a week. As for the fogs just go with oem style, once you get the bumper you will understand.

Also check to see if you have the wiring for the fogs. My 2003 did not until i swapped the engine harness when i did a SRT engine swap.

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:35 pm

Yeah, direct fit. Also the Auto Zone lights sound like a splice n dice to me! There is actually a How To on here for adding OEM fog lights to a car that didn't come with them. However if you do go the other route you will need some sort of switch and a relay. Although If you get a kit I guess that stuff will come with it.

supermike · Post by **supermike** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:02 pm

Yeah I had some of those $15 ones from Autozone. They looked nice in the dark, but they got rusty in about 2 days. Plus they wouldn't have passed inspection here in PA.

jT · Post by jT » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:49 am

get the projector fog lights from ebay.. they will probably cost more than the ones youre thinking of from autozone but prob will be better

then at the same time or down the road you could throw a hid kit into the fogs

and yes there are at least 2 how to' for wiring fogs.. oem style and aftermarket style... you dont -need- a toggle switch inside the car though if you dont want one.. i think that's covered in the how to also (or in the comments somewhere)

personally after having wired up my fogs with a switch inside .. the switch was more of a pain in the ass to do than it's worth.. if i were to do it again i'd wire them up to my side markers instead and leave the inside of the car out of the equation

NEON PARABOLA · Post by **NEON PARABOLA** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:20 am

see ya, I dont want a switch, if my headlights are on, I want my fogs on. and for what Graphite SRT said, I dont need it in a week, I dont plan on installing it till the end of winter.

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:37 am

Ok first off your going wit autozone shit your GUNA need a switch, relays, wiring and all that bullshit. And you said youve never done any electrical well maybe you should just go oem since itl Probly be the easiest thing to do and you can wire them to a switch to come on wenever the fuck you want. Custom wiring = splice n dice..... think about it...

Graphite SRT · Post by **Graphite SRT** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:06 pm

NEON PARABOLA wrote:see ya, I dont want a switch, if my headlights are on, I want my fogs on. and for what Graphite SRT said, I dont need it in a week, I dont plan on installing it till the end of winter.

i was just giving you info on where to get it quick. Good luck with those autozone fogs they probably won't make much of a difference in light output.

NiteHawk · Post by **NiteHawk** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:31 pm

man, im tellin ya here, save yourself the headache...

if you're gonna get the fog bumper, GO OEM ON THE LIGHTS!!! DEPO makes OEM replacement fogs, get a set of those from Modern Performance, get yourself the harness for them from Dodge, and get yourself a MFS that has the fog light switch! YOU ALREADY HAVE THE REST OF THE WIRING IN YOUR CAR!

I know this because my 04 didn't come with foglights, and it had the wiring already there! The plug is passenger side, bottom of the radiator, most likely taped up, but it's there, trust me.....

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:47 pm

^^^agreed. Idk about the DEPO replacements though. Is that what you're running Matt? I've heard people say the quality of them isn't very good and the chrome housing starts to look like crap after a while. But I definitely agree on going OEM. Nicer look, and cleaner install without the hacking.

NiteHawk · Post by **NiteHawk** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:54 pm

Yeah, I have depo replacements on my car

Some people have problems with them, I have a tiny bit of condensation in one of them but its no big deal to me. I have no problems with mine otherwise

jT · Post by jT » Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:36 am

i bought 00-02 depo's from a member here.. all the chrome is peeled and flaked off like a bad paint job.

at last check, depo didnt even list them as a product anymore... if that doesn't make a statement.. heh

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 8:29 am

NiteHawk wrote:Yeah, I have depo replacements on my car

Some people have problems with them, I have a tiny bit of condensation in one of them but its no big deal to me. I have no problems with mine otherwise

My passenger side fog light (OEM) has about an inch of water in it.

NiteHawk · Post by **NiteHawk** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:37 am

see, mixed reviews...

jT, no offense, but your review is kind of negated by the fact you bought a set of used fogs. It sucks that happened, but you bought a used set...

Fact is, the OEM design of the fogs just sucks in general...but still better than some auto parts store bargain brand foglights...

NEON PARABOLA · Post by **NEON PARABOLA** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:39 am

ok, after reading, I will go with OEM lights. This bumper im buying, can anyone attest to it's durability? I dont wana get a cheap flimsy nock-off.

jT · Post by jT » Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:42 am

NiteHawk wrote:see, mixed reviews...

jT, no offense, but your review is kind of negated by the fact you bought a set of used fogs. It sucks that happened, but you bought a used set..

ok, i did not specify, and you assumed, so i'll clarify.. they were new in box, never installed or used.

NiteHawk · Post by **NiteHawk** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:25 pm

my apologies then.

NEON PARABOLA · Post by **NEON PARABOLA** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:30 pm

merry X-mass dudes! hope ya'll got cool stuff for your Neon's

NiteHawk · Post by **NiteHawk** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:52 pm

tires and alternator, my xmas came early unfortunately, so the actual xmas comprised of 2 sweaters and $150, lol

NEON PARABOLA · Post by **NEON PARABOLA** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:08 am

I got a dodge motorsports rubber workbench table top cover, a dodge hoodie,and a dodge stool for my shop, also got some TOOL Cd's and A7X cd's! wootage!!!

03_SXT · Post by **03_SXT** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:46 am

Good choice on the OEM foglights. When you get the foglight bumper, you will understand why we recommended this route.

The OEM foglights have a very odd attachment design. The way the plastic housing attaches to the bumper and to the actual foglight is pretty stupid.

Adding aftermarket foglights with their universal attachment is tough, especially when your trying to decide where to mount them, and how to center them in the opening of the bumper.

OEM is the best way to go.

Down the road, grab some decent projectors, do a retro into the foglights, add a hid kit, and you will be golden. This will get you some experience and knowledge for retro's, then you can do your headlights to match

As for wiring, pickup a wiring harness, you DON'T have to use a switch. You will have to connect a ground and power to the battery (don't attach the ground to the battery, find somewhere else), and one more power wire for the signal.

Take out your headlight, and find the purple/white/black wire (I think that should be + low beam - double check this though, I'm not 100% sure) and splice into that from the wiring harness for the fogs.

This way the fogs will turn on when your headlights are turned, and you will be drawing power from the battery, not from the cars stock wiring harness (which by the way cannot handle both the headlight and foglight bulb)...

The OEM harness will cost you a pretty penny, a wiring harness will not. Check eBay...

~Amit

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