Burning smell

This is the place to ask questions about your engine components like cams, valves, pistons… just anything that is generally "engine" specific. This also includes questions about exhaust systems such as exhaust manifolds, piping size, mufflers, ect...
Post Reply
dodgeneonzl
2GN Member
Posts: 226
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:56 pm

Burning smell

Post by dodgeneonzl » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:36 pm

Ok guys, i have a problem... is it normal to have a burning smell when you floor your car? Seems like everytime when i push my car hard and when the rpm runs high, i get a burning smell from the car... as if i'm just racing another car... Other times it is fine, no problem, no leak... but only when i'm flooring it and it gets up the rpm then it starts to smell... it's not very very strong, but strong enough for me to be concerned... I'm thinking it might be a problem with the oil?? Although i'm not leaking oil, but it does seem to run low after about a couple of months... when checking the dip stick... this didn't used to happen when i still have my old motor. Thanks
Image

SOKADAO954
2009 Gold Contributor
Posts: 1768
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:58 pm
Location: IM IN MIAMI BITCHHH......
Contact:

Post by SOKADAO954 » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:20 pm

car can be runing ritch, do u see any smoke when turn on the car ??
and have u checked spark plugs take them out if on of them is black u geting a bit of oil in!! check these items hope this helps idk what everyone elz might think but thats something to look at
Image
|Danny|
06 VW Jetta 2.5 MTX - 4 Doors fit more whores.

"In search of the perfect beat. I found my soul"

dodgeneonzl
2GN Member
Posts: 226
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:56 pm

Post by dodgeneonzl » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:40 pm

Ok, so i just switched out new spark plugs... old ones were dark grey looking... like burnt color like... that's normal right? and yeah, i'm definitly leaking oil somewhere because i check my oil level today and it was below the minimal mark on the dipstick! yikes.... But i've checked around and didn't see any leaks... i especially looked at my oil pressure sensors and valve cover... but didn't find any oil leaks... it is possible that it's leaking into the cylinders? Thanks
Image

occasional demons
Junior Admin
Posts: 20064
Joined: Thu May 03, 2007 12:14 pm
Location: Ashland Ohio

Post by occasional demons » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:12 pm

It could be going into the intake manifold via the pcv system. Maybe the valve cover baffles on the newer engine aren't keeping the oil out as well as the old one. Or you just need a new PCV valve. Pull the bellows tube/TB off and stick a light into the IM. If there is a lot of oil in the bottom, you found where it is going.
Bill
Probably shouldn't listen to anything your penis says, that guy's a dick.
Patience, of course, is a very powerful weapon, but sometimes I start to regret that it is not a firearm.
Too much time spent here is a sign of a bad case of Ownaneonvirus.

2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap

ZeroChad
2009 Gold Contributor
Posts: 3165
Joined: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:08 pm
Location: Austin, Tx
Contact:

Post by ZeroChad » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:59 pm

When I'm plowing through snow at high rpms and not really going anywhere, I'll smell a "burnt" odor now and then. I wanna attribute it to the tranny overheating, but thats just a guess.
Old Neon Log | Feedback

2000 - Corvette Coupe
2002 - Neon SE Fully Built (scrapped)

User avatar
03wingswestR/T
2GN Member
Posts: 520
Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:48 am
Location: stockton cali

Post by 03wingswestR/T » Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:33 pm

if you run a motor hard alot you will loose oil! get a catch can! and that smell is heat. if it doesnt smell like burning oil or sweet like antifreeze or clutch then you should be good.. :rockon:
Image

occasional demons
Junior Admin
Posts: 20064
Joined: Thu May 03, 2007 12:14 pm
Location: Ashland Ohio

Post by occasional demons » Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:23 pm

ZeroChad wrote:When I'm plowing through snow at high rpms and not really going anywhere, I'll smell a "burnt" odor now and then. I wanna attribute it to the tranny overheating, but thats just a guess.
Off topic, maybe.
:shock: That is the fastest way to kill an ATX! Spinning tires, and no air moving through the radiator = failed ATX. But it would need to be substained for at least 5 minutes.

Since it is snow season, (here in the climate change states) if you do get stuck with an ATX, at the minumum, turn on the A/C so the fan runs. If I had an ATX, I would install a switched alternate power feed to the fan relay, to manually turn on the cooling fan, just for this reason.
I have run the piss out of mine, and never have I had a burning smell. Well, that wasn't the tires. :roll:
Bill
Probably shouldn't listen to anything your penis says, that guy's a dick.
Patience, of course, is a very powerful weapon, but sometimes I start to regret that it is not a firearm.
Too much time spent here is a sign of a bad case of Ownaneonvirus.

2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap

User avatar
excon
2GN Member
Posts: 1371
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:15 am
Location: Richmond, VA

Post by excon » Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:45 pm

Do you have a MTX? You could be smelling burning clutch!
Image

dodgeneonzl
2GN Member
Posts: 226
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:56 pm

Post by dodgeneonzl » Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:31 am

Thanks for all the help guys, i have an atx... I'm gonna check the intake manifold tomorrow... It's just that i used to have my old motor and even when i ran it hard it didn't lose oil... at least not that much, i almost have to put in a quart of oil to replace what was lost in about what? probably 2months?

Also, if it's leaking would it be obvious? as in like a oily substance? or would the heat of the engine just dry it off? I can touch the back of the motor where the oil press. sensor is at but i can't see it... so i used my fingers to swap it but i don't get any oily stuff... just a little dirt and dust.
Image

Passt
2GN Member
Posts: 2635
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:23 pm

Post by Passt » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:53 am

I'm going to follow this thread. When I was at the shop last week I noticed I was almost 2 qts. low. I don't have any exterior leaks.
Image

arlenok
2GN Member
Posts: 77
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:57 pm
Location: Ardmore, PA

Post by arlenok » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:17 am

It might be blow-by. If possible check your piston rings.
Official "I'm Going to Drive My Neon till it Dies" Club #000049

dodgeneonzl
2GN Member
Posts: 226
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:56 pm

Post by dodgeneonzl » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:26 am

Ok, thanks man, but i wont' be able to check on it for a while, i'm in mississagua, ontario right now for a week or so... I drove 16hours straight lol...

Oh, anyone lives around here who wants to meet up? :)
Image

User avatar
mopar4life
2GN Member
Posts: 465
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:13 pm

Post by mopar4life » Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:14 pm

Passt wrote:I'm going to follow this thread. When I was at the shop last week I noticed I was almost 2 qts. low. I don't have any exterior leaks.
My SRT is the same way. When we took the turbo hoses off to put the clutch in a while back there was oil in them. Not alot but some, I believe Ill do the catch can before long and figure out the problem.
Image
randomZERO wrote:I'm trying to help you not insult you. This is why neons have a bad name is because people buy all these plastic do dads and crazy lites, the neon is not a christmas tree. .

gopherfan2011
2GN Member
Posts: 59
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:41 pm
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota

Post by gopherfan2011 » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:01 pm

03wingswestR/T wrote:if you run a motor hard alot you will loose oil! get a catch can! and that smell is heat. if it doesnt smell like burning oil or sweet like antifreeze or clutch then you should be good.. :rockon:
What if you happen to be smelling burning antifreeze......I think my headgasket is going! :x please HALP!

occasional demons
Junior Admin
Posts: 20064
Joined: Thu May 03, 2007 12:14 pm
Location: Ashland Ohio

Post by occasional demons » Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:24 pm

dodgeneonzl: Did you ever figure it out? after re reading this It may have been the catalytic converter heating up due to a rich mixture at WOT.

gopherfan2011: Is it the sweet smell, like 03wingswestR/T decribed?
How does the overflow/expansion tank look? Check that it is not leaking/spilling over onto the exhaust mani.

I would check all the hoses first, as a small leak can leave a lot of oder as it will steam away quite a bit before it shows any signs of puddles on the ground. They can be hard to find, as it will only leave a smal amount of seepage sometimes. I could smell a faint hint of burning antifreeze before I did the timing belt/ water pump change. The waterpump was seeping ever so slightly, but not enough to leave any tell tale signs of a leak.

If you can smell it strong at the tail pipe, then there is a good chance it is getting into the combustion chamber. If it starts smoking white smoke out the tailpipe, it is definately getting in there. Then you are looking at a headgasket change. Or a replacement head. Usually the only way a head fails on these is if it was overheated.
Bill
Probably shouldn't listen to anything your penis says, that guy's a dick.
Patience, of course, is a very powerful weapon, but sometimes I start to regret that it is not a firearm.
Too much time spent here is a sign of a bad case of Ownaneonvirus.

2000 Neon MTX swap with '02 R/T PCM
1999 neon coupe 2.4 swap

User avatar
Adionik
2GN Member
Posts: 2777
Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:37 am
Location: S.A

Post by Adionik » Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:43 pm

Mine is the same way. I have a catch can but I still need to check if there is oil...I am getting so tired of that smell.
dank(r/t) wrote:you tell 'em altezza light, black headlight cover guy!
you know what's up, it's obvious.
TheRandom1 wrote:Adionik, you're an asshole, we all know this.

gopherfan2011
2GN Member
Posts: 59
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:41 pm
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota

Post by gopherfan2011 » Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:09 pm

I'll have to have my dad check, I'm away at school and he started it up and smelled it. Thanks for the help!

User avatar
esfan
2011 Silver Contributor
Posts: 1099
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:19 pm
Location: San Diego, California

Post by esfan » Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:09 am

same problem i have before. then i change the driving belt and the pulley, (actually belt almost worn out, pulley damaged), the burning smell disappear. suggest checking driving belt and pulley, sometimes i thought they got slipped , that's why it burns...
Fan
2000 Dodge Neon ES
Official "I'm Going to Drive My Neon till it Dies" Club #52
Image

Donkeypuncher
2GN Member
Posts: 2183
Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:14 am
Location: Dallas, Tx

Post by Donkeypuncher » Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:37 am

I'm thinking the pcv or possible a slightly leaky heater hose on the back of the block. The pressure in the coolant system increases as the rpms increase, which can cause a slightly leaky hose to swell up and shoot coolant on the exhaust manifold.

If it just spritzes across the hot exhaust it could account for smell at full throttle high rpms.

Post Reply

Return to “Engine”