Pulstar plugs... Worth it????

srtgtr34 · Post by **srtgtr34** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:56 pm

I went to modern a while ago and noticed these spark plugs..

http://www.modernperformance.com/pulsta ... -1880.html

I went to their website and it said that a c5 vette made 10hp just with these plugs, in retrospect that should mean about 3 maybe even four on our four bangers. I will be getting some new spark plugs in the coming weeks for my tune up and these plugs look to be awesome. Basically they last for four years which for me is great since I don't use this neon for long distances. I am seriously thinking about buying them when I change my plugs...

What do you guys think about them?

Post by **racer12306** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:10 pm

I personally would stay away. $100 for a set of plugs, then they better last forever.

i had two links but they got deleted. do a search and you will find threads about them.

Tam · Post by **Tam** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:21 pm

I personally wouldn't spend $100 on spark plugs unless they do something substantially better than other regular plugs, and if they last forever.

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:22 pm

Well that picture is a bullshit comparison. Look at the difference in gap between the plugs. I guess with the whole capacitor thing, they are trying to claim that the time constant of the ignition coil is enough to delay spark at the spark plug. Really, these plugs would have to be tailored to whatever coil you were using in that case.

I think I'd rather blow my money on cheap hookers than those "pulse plugs".

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:45 pm

I have heard they are extremely badass plugs...but the price is more than crack

srtgtr34 · Post by **srtgtr34** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:02 pm

I might actually try them out, they look convincing...

http://pulstarplug.blogspot.com/

http://bp1.blogger.com/_5MDMbp3lxPg/R9b ... ITests.jpg

If they do what they say they do then they are really worth a 100 bucks. We shall see...

Post by **occasional demons** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:07 pm

Adionik wrote:I have heard they are extremely badass plugs...but the price is more than crack

With these women at work wearing loose fitting low rider jeans, I see crack for free all day.

Well if you do get them keep us posted!

OB · Post by OB » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:42 pm

Dyno before and after if you get them! That's the only way to know for sure. Take one for the team!

srtgtr34 · Post by **srtgtr34** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:15 pm

OB wrote:Dyno before and after if you get them! That's the only way to know for sure. Take one for the team!

I don't think I'll go that far but I will definately measure the mpg increase from the ngk which I have now to the pulstars. Although the test would be very flawed since I am seafoaming her, adding gran. wires, new air filter and giving her fresh oil and filter, at the same time.

Unless someone wants to send some donations to me for two dyno runs, then I'd do it.

On the page I linked, they stated that they dynoed a srt4 with them put the link seems broken.....

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:43 am

Please don't waste your money on this product without doing more research. IMHO you should stick with the NGK, and maybe upgrade to a lower resistance, higher EMI, RFI suppresion wires.

The Pulsar idea is very similar to the Nology Hotwires. These plugs just try to add capacitance in the plug rather than the wire. Read this article HERE. Its a good in depth discussion about the plugs.

The dyno comparison HEREdoesn't even prove anything. The numbers are so close, they can be attributed to variations from the dyno equipment or environment. They're website is really garbage too. They're claim that the pulsar somehow have more "discharge power" is pure crap. Really the only possible change that these plugs would create would be a "quicker" spark. The spark would actually occur later in time and would have a shorter duration.

When you think about it though. Automotive companies do massive amounts of R&D. If it was possible for them to improve mileage by adding a capacitive element to the ignition system, you be they're ass they would have done it to gain a leg on the competition, especially in today's market.

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:53 am

These sparks are probably not worth the money though

Arro · Post by **Arro** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:11 am

I use Champion Iridium 9001 plugs. Highest content of iridium you can buy... the highest quality plug of its kind. Here is the low-down:

Iridium is a precious metal that is 6 times harder and 8 times stronger than platinum, it has a 1,200 degree (F) higher melting point than platinum and conducts electricity better. This makes it possible to create the finest wire center electrode ever. Prior till now, spark plug manufacturers have favored platinum for their long life or performance spark plugs due to its high melting point. Also, the technology did not exist to machine and bond iridium on a spark plug electrode (at least in a cost effective manner). Champion spark plugs have produced iridium industrial and aviation spark plugs since the 1960's, but they sold for over a hundred dollars per plug. Now the technology is cost effective to use iridium in a spark plug for automotive applications. The strength, hardness and high melting point of iridium makes it very well suited for a fine wire plug. The primary iridium plug manufacturers at this time are Denso with a 0.4mm center electrode, while Champion and NGK have 0.7mm center electrodes. These are the best performance plugs on the market for traditional automotive use and many racing applications. Autolite has introduced an iridium-enhanced plug (the iridium content is too low to call it an iridium plug) we do not consider this in the same class as Denso, NGK or Champion.

Champion Iridium plugs feature a superior 0.7mm iridium fine wire center electrode, platinum v-trimmed ground electrode, and exclusive Heat-Active alloy. These are the best performance plugs on the market for traditional automotive use and many racing applications.

Swordfish2Cowboy · Post by **Swordfish2Cowboy** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:35 am

Arro wrote:I use Champion Iridium 9001 plugs. Highest content of iridium you can buy... the highest quality plug of its kind. Here is the low-down:

Iridium is a precious metal that is 6 times harder and 8 times stronger than platinum, it has a 1,200 degree (F) higher melting point than platinum and conducts electricity better. This makes it possible to create the finest wire center electrode ever. Prior till now, spark plug manufacturers have favored platinum for their long life or performance spark plugs due to its high melting point. Also, the technology did not exist to machine and bond iridium on a spark plug electrode (at least in a cost effective manner). Champion spark plugs have produced iridium industrial and aviation spark plugs since the 1960's, but they sold for over a hundred dollars per plug. Now the technology is cost effective to use iridium in a spark plug for automotive applications. The strength, hardness and high melting point of iridium makes it very well suited for a fine wire plug. The primary iridium plug manufacturers at this time are Denso with a 0.4mm center electrode, while Champion and NGK have 0.7mm center electrodes. These are the best performance plugs on the market for traditional automotive use and many racing applications. Autolite has introduced an iridium-enhanced plug (the iridium content is too low to call it an iridium plug) we do not consider this in the same class as Denso, NGK or Champion.

Champion Iridium plugs feature a superior 0.7mm iridium fine wire center electrode, platinum v-trimmed ground electrode, and exclusive Heat-Active alloy. These are the best performance plugs on the market for traditional automotive use and many racing applications.

I'll stick to my NGKs.

Jbucky05 · Post by **Jbucky05** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:08 am

^agreed i will stick to my NGK's

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:38 pm

Nothing wrong with em. I have a set, they work well for everyone on this site except for the extremely boosted people. Even up to 15psi, they worked great with more stable a/f ratios than NGKs. I would bet money on gas savings and a smoother running engine. It's not going to be night and day, but if you can justify $150 for a cold air intake that does nothing but make more noise, $100 shouldn't be too hard to swallow.

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:48 pm

Just figured I would pass this along.

There is a guy on Caliberforumz that had a set of these in his Caliber. Killed one of them in less than 10,000 miles on a stock Caliber.

Food for thought.

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:56 pm

v95 srt had them on his bolt on atx and he didnt notice any difference but this was butt dyno feel with no acual track or dyno or a/f results

04R/T · Post by **04R/T** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:07 am

I don't know if you would notice any difference. Are they worth the extra money? I don't know. On my own car I just use the regular Champion coppers, they work fine, they're cheap and on a Neon, easy to change. I figure if they work, why bother with the fancy stuff?

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:05 pm

I noticed a big difference on my car, but now I have a engine code 2302 lol, damnit!

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:23 pm

Just use OEM..

/thread

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:37 pm

placebo effect

esteinmaier · Post by **esteinmaier** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:48 pm

I didn't notice a butt difference, but AFRs were more stable. That's all. Performance-wise, I could squeeze the same power from my trusty NGKs.

72rs · Post by **72rs** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:58 pm

COPPER CHAMPIONS

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:18 pm

I completely skipped over every post, but the plugs don't do anything a regular plug will, except cost a lot more. "snake oil" if you will...

Dimas · Post by **Dimas** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:58 pm

I feel a major difference in my car, now my retarded ass didn't replace the wires at the same time with these new plugs.

Just went to Autozone and got the Duralast plugs, still using my MSD coil pack, now with these pulsar plugs, so far I used to get 160 on a full tank in city, now I went up 190s. Still testing it's only been a week so I let you guys know if anything gones wrong. Haven't tried the coppers champions yet but I like these better than the ngk

Post by **racer12306** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:48 pm

Get real MPG numbers rather than miles per tank please.

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:40 pm

Dimas wrote:I feel a major difference in my car, now my retarded ass didn't replace the wires at the same time with these new plugs.

Just went to Autozone and got the Duralast plugs, still using my MSD coil pack, now with these pulsar plugs, so far I used to get 160 on a full tank in city, now I went up 190s. Still testing it's only been a week so I let you guys know if anything gones wrong. Haven't tried the coppers champions yet but I like these better than the ngk

Are you sure a bump in mileage per tank isn't due to fresh plugs?

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:08 am

darthroush wrote:Are you sure a bump in mileage per tank isn't due to fresh plugs?

This is quite possible.

- Nick