srt front brakes on an atx

[Ntyvirus1]

will i need to swap to mtx to get the srt steering rack to work or will it work with an atx. ( srry if this is a nooblike question)

[occasional demons]

Don't see why it wouldn't work. There is nothing really related. It will still be a PITA swapping racks.

[thttxboy]

NO I ran the brakes on my car before the swap and I had an ATX.

[Ntyvirus1]

ok, thank you for the quick answer

[neonslg09]

so i can swap srt4 front brakes/calipers on my 00 atx. no problem???

[excon]

yes

[freetibet]

can you also swap srt4 rear brakes on a 2000 neon?

[excon]

yes

[neonslg09]

excon is yes man

and excon, is it worth swapping the brakes?

[JeffM]

Some people say it makes a difference in braking, some people say it doesn't. I think the two main reasons for doing the swap are:

1. Rotor/Caliper setups look nicer
2. Easier to repair than drums

Only you can decide, Grasshopper.

[thttxboy]

I didnt feel a difference with the rear brake swap but when I did the fronts I did. Like said before honestly they just look better

[overstreet]

For the front srt brake swap on a 02
do i need to use the srt rack or can i get by with the stock one
Thanks

[LionheartedSXT]

You could use your stock steering rack but you would need to shave down your stock tie rods for it to work properly. Probably would be better off getting the srt rack but you would have to sacrifice your turning radius

And as for feeling a difference in the rear swap I guess its all your own preference, but for me I felt a pretty decent difference in stopping distance since the load is a bit more dispersed between the front and rear now than when I had the drums. But for the most part people do it for the looks.

[overstreet]

So all of the srt front brakes will bolt directly to the 02 control arms and struts because im thinking about doing the front and rear swap...
and i dk if im right but i think the rear doesnt need any adjustment with proportioning
Thanks
Chris

[excon]

last time:

in order to do the SRT FRONT BRAKE SWAP, you need to swap your base neon steering rack for an SRT-4 steering rack.

or

shave down your stock tie rods...

personally i wouldn't try the latter...

[overstreet]

will my stock axles fit the srt hubs?

[thttxboy]

Yes ^^^^

[occasional demons]

So all of the srt front brakes will bolt directly to the 02 control arms and struts because im thinking about doing the front and rear swap...
and i dk if im right but i think the rear doesnt need any adjustment with proportioning
Thanks
Chris

last time:

in order to do the SRT FRONT BRAKE SWAP, you need to swap your base neon steering rack for an SRT-4 steering rack.

or

shave down your stock tie rods...

personally i wouldn't try the latter...

That didn't even apply to his question.

The brakes attach to the knuckles, not the control arms fo a start. I believe you also need the knuckles, which will attach to the LCA's. Then you need to swap/modify racks. SRT struts prolly not manditory if you are running a standard 16" rim/tire size. I believe if you go to the SRT tire size, then yes you need the struts.
Ideally, you will need the non antilock 15/16" master cyl. for complete SRT set up. There is a thread about that too. IIRC it is stickied?

Edit: guess not.

viewtopic.php?t=37472

[overstreet]

u think id be alright with the stock master for now since im only doing the front? and then when i get the rear ill switch over

[LionheartedSXT]

Well most of your braking is primarily done with the front brakes so if it does not have the right proportioning from the MC, your brake pedal may feel a bit soft when you press down on it rather than stiff. And brakes aren't exactly something you should play around with, especially since it would be pretty dangerous when your driving and your car isn't stopping as it should. You would be better off just doing it all together, front brakes, rears and srt MC. However you will be fine with just swapping the rears for now and retaining the stock sxt MC and it will proportion just fine as is what many people on here do such as myself.

[thttxboy]

u think id be alright with the stock master for now since im only doing the front? and then when i get the rear ill switch over

My car is srt swapped, everything minus the brake master cylinder and abs. I have never had any issues and really you only need to upgrade the master cylinder if you plan on using a SRT big brake kit since the base neon master cylinder cant produce enough pressure to run them properly.

[hansken_yo]

I had to upgrade my mc because of the bbk.

[overstreet]

u think id be alright with the stock master for now since im only doing the front? and then when i get the rear ill switch over

My car is srt swapped, everything minus the brake master cylinder and abs. I have never had any issues and really you only need to upgrade the master cylinder if you plan on using a SRT big brake kit since the base neon master cylinder cant produce enough pressure to run them properly.

did your car come with drums?
but should i try and find the acr steering rack if i can while im at it since its quicker ratio or just do the srt rack
and last thing i saw someone mentioned that the power steering lines needed to be changed to?

[Danteneon]

His car did come with drum brake originally.

The SRT rack is needed since it doesn't allow the wheels to turn quite as far which keeps the larger tires from rubbing.

Your lines should work just fine IIRC.

[overstreet]

im running 215/45/17s all on my stock stuff lol

[Danteneon]

The knuckles are shaped differently where the tie rods attach. If you leave your stock rack in there you will not be able to adjust the toe correctly.

[overstreet]

yahh i knowww
cant wait to get it done

[Dez902]

I have the stock 05 rack and brake master cylinder with SRT-4 knuckles, rotors and calipers and I have 0 problems running my 17s with 205/40/17s... as well as i have done the rear disc swap from an SRT (i had drums before) and again no problems...