Sign of getting old?

Phasmatis · Post by **Phasmatis** » Wed May 27, 2009 2:24 am

I am kind of in the mood to rant and sort of get older and not understand the youth these days.

I am talking about Emos. Is there anybody that can explain this to me? I was just surfing around youtube and found some guys (maybe girls, i couldnt really tell) showing how they do their hair and look all emo. I guess I can understand the fashion, whatever, fashion comes and goes but what is with the attitude? I see these kids around town and they look like they went through a life of being raped by daddy but act like a 3 year old, which would really serve as a childish clinging to what daddy did in younger years.

Furthermore, the emo music is simply horrible. It is all about knives and bleeding and crying and guys starting their periods.

Do emo boys grow facial hair or are they missing the man gene? Do emo boys have man parts? I really don't know!

What is going to happen to these "individuals" (individual termed loosely as they all look the same) when they get older and realize they are pretty messed up?

I am not really that old, im only 24, but I just dont get kids nowdays. I can only imagine what the next "in" thing is going to be. Rocky horror picture show dress ups.... everyday?

I hope this image of the future (ironically the past) doesnt scare you!

I guess I am done for now. Any thoughts on the emo anomoly?

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Wed May 27, 2009 3:39 am

When you start referring to the generation after yours as "these kids" and you just can't understand them or their music, you have definitely started becoming an adult (it was called the "Generation Gap" when I was in grade school). Can't happen to you? Yeah, I thought the same thing when I was in my 20's but it's inevitable.

BTW, I don't understand them either.

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Wed May 27, 2009 3:43 am

lol. im only 19 but ive always wondered the same. it was funny wen i was at school, there was a group of "emo" kids. I always wondered wat they would talk about...

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Wed May 27, 2009 8:59 am

Been there, done that several times now... regarding not understanding the generation coming up.

You REALLY know you have moved on when you suddenly realize you don't like the "new" music and find the music you do like being referred to as the oldies. Actually... there is some of the new music that I do like... have to admit that.

The older generation went through the same thing with me and my piers when we were in our youth... and so on it goes.

LilSparkPlug · Post by **LilSparkPlug** » Wed May 27, 2009 10:23 am

I never understood my generation and still don't let alone the generations behind me. I was supposed to be born at a different time LOL. But this emo craze is really disturbing. But since we're on the subject of disturbing youthful activities I'm going to go a step further.

When the fuck did men start becoming more feminine than women?!!!

Eye makeup? Tight pants? Capris? Long flowy hair? Manicures? No facial/chest/arm hair because they shave/wax it? WTF?! When did men stop becoming men!? And since when did being depressed/sadistic/emo become cool?

glasswars · Post by **glasswars** » Wed May 27, 2009 10:35 am

I'm not even going to bother explaining unless someone really wants to know,

Emo is NOTHING like you see it everyday when you go to the mall and see the little tweens dressed up like retards. It has become a scene that was completely destroyed by the media. MTV, etc. They gave the "emo" scene a completely different image that had everybody jump on and say "oo me next!" which has now come to the point where everybody looks like a fucking moron.

Nobody actually want's to kill themself. It's the same idea with those gothic retards you see, they only do it for the attention and the image. The more you stare, the more they get off on it.

What "emo" music have you heard exactly?

When the word emo comes up on this forum, usually my name comes up. But everyone know's it as a joke, because I am actually not "emo." Only by appearance. Yup, my hair is long and goes to one side, and yes, I wear fitted jeans. Am I emo? Fuck no. I love metal, hardcore, post rock, death metal. You won't find one "emo" band on my iTunes.

I'm just gonna put emphasis on the point that the emo scene, when it began, was nothing like it is the way you see it now, the media completely destroyed it with the help of 13 year old teenage girls.

Phasmatis · Post by **Phasmatis** » Wed May 27, 2009 11:10 am

I def can understand the fashion thing. I certainly was not trying to offend anybody, especially anybody on here

Shit, I used to dye my hair blue for christ sakes, I can understand "fashion."

I have a younger sister and she has a lot of these "emo" or "scene" if you want to call it that kind of friends. Those kids are all so weird, almost like goth as you stated glasswars, but in a strange kind of "i hate my life and want to die" instead of a "i hate my life and am already dead" like goths lol. Striking similarity, huh!

I would honestly be interested in hearing an explenation regarding the emo thing. I don't like to dislike something unless I understand because it is ignorance otherwise! So, do tell glasswars, if you have the time or would like to.

Post by **Diablo0** » Wed May 27, 2009 11:14 am

I have no idea but I'm right there with you on a lot of things. It's a little unrelated but I remember when I was in high school we acted like idiots but to us it was funny. After being out for about a year I got off work early one day and decided to just stop in and see one of my teachers. I had gotten there a little before the day was over, kids still in class so I stood at the back and watched. It had only been a year and I realized how stupid we were just a year ago, sitting in those very chairs acting the way we did.

I'm still young, a lot to still learn but now that I'm on the outside looking in, seeing how kids act, pretty much the same way we acted and thinking our $8/hr McJobs was all you needed to make it through life... only took a year out of HS to realize how wrong and stupid we all were. Whats worse is I remember getting told that we were stupid and thought the person telling us was an idiot... I now realize they were telling the truth lol.

glasswars · Post by **glasswars** » Wed May 27, 2009 12:15 pm

Actually, better than me explaining it, watch this video, it's hilarious, and a joke, but it does explain how the scene began pretty well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGLv3IEL0VI

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Wed May 27, 2009 1:54 pm

$8.00/hour!!!!!

My first paying job was $1.30/hour and back then it was enough that I could afford a car.

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Wed May 27, 2009 2:15 pm

emo is just some bs media fad. its so retarded i dont really get it what happened to acting happy lol

and glasswars you arnt emo you're metal as fuck lol

Ntyvirus1 · Post by **Ntyvirus1** » Wed May 27, 2009 3:07 pm

plus those purple pants are too bright to be emo

just messin with you.

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Wed May 27, 2009 3:17 pm

I am emo

*cries*

hul kogan · Post by **hul kogan** » Wed May 27, 2009 3:32 pm

I agree with glasswars here, the whole 'emo' scene has been construed beyond belief over the years. I swear every tween girl that I see nowadays has the whole 'tight pants, flats, button-up shirt, short hair' look going on.

I grew up as a skateboarder, so I was kinda always sporting a style that wasn't the norm. Remember the Jnco jeans, baggy shirts, and bowl hair cut days? I sure as hell do, because I was rocking the shit out of it!

You will notice that a lot of the fashion that eventually becomes the norm starts in the skateboarding and music culture. Hell, I have been rocking the 'tighter' pants for years now. All because I once saw a professional skater rockin' a pair. I don't rock the ridiculously tight jeans, though. Those are just uncomfortable. Haha.

Some might consider my style 'emo', but I don't. I usually wear tighter pants (my nickname to many people is actually 'Chickpants'), smaller shirts, hoodies, a variety of different types of shoes (from Pony's to my purple Air Force Ones), hair is usually shaved closer to my head, rock a beard, I have black thick rim glasses, and I have stretched ears. I personally think my style falls more into the realm of the current metal scene, but meh...whatever floats your boat.

Oh and just for you LSP, I have an old pair of jeans that I cut off a few years back to create my invention...'manpris'. They're pretty sweet. Sure I have a few people that give me shit about them, but I like 'em.

Maybe I'll even bring them to Carlisle!

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Wed May 27, 2009 3:33 pm

To read what emo actually was, read this link:

http://www.fourfa.com/

Synopsys: Emo is a version of punk hardcore, where instead of singing "fuck the government" they talked about life shit. Emotional hardcore is what it started as.

Sure, people like Bright Eyes make it horrible for everyone. I hate my life, everything sucks, wah, my girlfriend broke up with me. It's almost like country without the cowboy boots.

What you're actually seeing with the ball stretching pants and pink shirts are more like "scene" kids. It's almost like grunge was in the early 90's. It started off as the "anti" and then became a trend thanks to major companies.

I've been rocking the same blue jeans and metal/hardcore band t-shirts since I was in high school. They were baggy then....but the same size pants aren't baggy now, and the shirt size has stepped up to having 2 x's though.

mopar4life · Post by **mopar4life** » Wed May 27, 2009 4:05 pm

Im still in highschool and dont understand it at all. Sure we all get depressed or sad but why make an entire life style based solely on bein that way. The fashion I dont understand, the music, (I LOVE metal BTW) I dont quite get and the general purpose I have no clue. All the girls around here are that way and love to smoke dope so Im just gonna stay single. We have a few "guys" run around like that but we either A) BEAT THEIR ASS or B) Try and run em over. Whatever happened to good ol country boys and girls and just good people in general? Pisses me off....

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Wed May 27, 2009 4:15 pm

well I had a long rant, but I guess I forgot to hit Submit.

I understand what you're talking about, but I think the whiny little bitches you're referring to (the ones that look like their dad butt raped them) are 'scene' kids that just dress stereotypically 'emo' and act like their shit doesn't stink and they have the hardest life in the world. Also note that most of them are 14 years old. They're whiny and brooding like all other 14 year olds. They just stand out because they catch your eye due to the fact that you already hate the way they look.

I think most true 'emo' kids don't even really play into the whole scene look really. At leas in my opinion it's easy to tell who are the more, let's say, indie cultured folks and those that are just whiny little scene kids pissed off that their parents won't let them go to the My Chemical Bromance concert alone yet.

Everyone has people they hate. I don't just hate scenesters, I reallllyyyy loathe wiggers as well. So if this offends you (not the OP, the wiggers), I'm glad. Maybe you will think before you look and or act stupid in the future. Imitating another culture isn't cool, it just makes you look dumb...

In sum, yeah a lot of people suck and I have nothing against 'emo' kids... It's the scenesters I hate. Take your sister's (purple

) jeans back to the drawer you found them in.

No offense Anthony

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Wed May 27, 2009 4:46 pm

Scene kids drive me fucking nuts. I want to grab there retardedly large glasses and spandex everything and smash them upside their head.

I went though that "gotta wear ALL black" goth phase, to the destroy shit and riot punk phase, to the, I'm a normal guy with shit in my face phase I'm in now.

Really, the whole "emo" trend thing is just media hype. Remember when avril lavigne came out and everyone was suddenly a "punk rocker"? It was all because media hyped it into the new "cool" thing to do. Well, this is generally the same thing... just bitchier.

I know a ton of people that have that tight jeans, parted hair look (me being one) but no one I know is suicidal and acts like daddy raped them. I (we) enjoy all the metal, hardcore, bash people in the face music that people have grown to love.

Don't look to much into it. It's just a trend and will fade away in another year. By the looks of it, the 80's are coming back... and god help us all....

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Wed May 27, 2009 5:00 pm

I wear board shorts and surf t-shirts and listen to British inspired Rock. I did the same when I lived in the Suburbs and now that I live on the Beach.

I don't understand following trends. Just be who you are.

I have told a few of the scene kids at my work, who wouldn't get off the Rock Band Demo, that their little sister called and they wanted their jeans back.

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Wed May 27, 2009 5:15 pm

I'm normal.. i guess, whatever normal is

Im a wash and wear, dont care if i "match" and just live my life day to day.

Always remember KISS

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

SOKADAO954 · Post by **SOKADAO954** » Wed May 27, 2009 5:29 pm

the way i see this...
the so called emo kids, that the media puts out there is more then what it realy is.
the reason why i say that.
im a raver, but the media makes the rave scene look like a bunch of acid drugies who do acid all day and dance.
no..... its not like that, media changes the way a culture or group is seen under the eyes of the public.
i go to raves and yea u see some of those kids tripping balls, but its very few. But they stand out so much that media is all over it.

so i yea there's some emo that want to die, kill and do all that shit, but we can judge everyone for the acts some...

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Wed May 27, 2009 5:36 pm

I was just at DEMF last Saturday where everyone was rolling on E and tripping balls on acid

I was offered drugs numerous times. I <3 the candy kid crowd. They're silly to watch.

the one thing that has stuck with me since I was 14 was my body mods. So, regardless of what I wear, I always have to have those.

GreeNeons03 · Post by **GreeNeons03** » Wed May 27, 2009 5:39 pm

Emo ------>

superdan · Post by **superdan** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:02 pm

actually what most people think is "emo" music isnt "emo" music. (sorry if this has been stated already) but emo music isnt typically the hard guitar riffs and loud drums and screaming. its more or less the words i think atleast. go on youtube and type in taking back sunday. you may not think they are emo but look up some lyrics to their songs. emo as shit.

myself i listen to alot of death metal and alot of types of rock and if you look up some lyrics to thier songs, sure they may talk about killing, and other random shit but so does rap music lol so its really all in what your opinion and definition of any type of music is.

and i agree with sidepipe on the wigger thing even though i wont deny that i was on in middle school. Then i realized that i was wearing shirts and pants that were big enough to fit two or more people in lol.

so i stopped all that and became what i call the average style. you know comfortable baggy pants with breathing room and khaki shorts t shirts from hollister and skater shoes skater shirts and pants and shit. sports team shirts and band shirts lol i also wear a good bit of the nice button up shirts that you can get from american eagle hollister and places like that. i wear some affliction stuff and occasionally you will see me wear a flat bill hat but will only wear hats of teams i like. i hate when people buy jerseys of players on teams they dont like. dont ask me why its just a thing lol and on top of all that i have a tattoo on my back with a skull and wings and roses. i dont place myself in any type of "style" or "trend" but i also dont fallow what other people wear. its all about how i feel when i wake up lol

SOKADAO954 · Post by **SOKADAO954** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:02 pm

Opi wrote:I was just at DEMF last Saturday where everyone was rolling on E and tripping balls on acid

I was offered drugs numerous times. I <3 the candy kid crowd. They're silly to watch.

the one thing that has stuck with me since I was 14 was my body mods. So, regardless of what I wear, I always have to have those.

huahauha candy raving ended in 98 lol...
and the new kids make it so much more then what it realy is.

benzsxt · Post by **benzsxt** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:27 pm

Rave scene in DC was insane back in the day. I usually stood out from everyone else. I have always had my own sense of style through the years. I call it lazy.Levis Jeans and Affliction t shirts, whatever. I have had people tell me I dress like a biker. I give some of the weirdos some credit, the colors and the money in some off these outfits is crazy! Can someone explain the to big for my head hats with the stickers on them? I just dont understand it and the couple people that I have asked get kind of offended. The girl pants look rediculous and the 1980 Nike hi tops where ugly back then. Some of these guys look like the Easter bunny threw up on them with all the pastel colors. I didnt know that looking gay is cool, i guess that is why I will never be cool!

glasswars · Post by **glasswars** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:45 pm

I'm gonna have to dress extra gay/scene/emo/ easter bunny threw up on me/ girl like at carlisle for all of you.

hul kogan · Post by **hul kogan** » Wed May 27, 2009 7:19 pm

benzsxt wrote:Some of these guys look like the Easter bunny threw up on them with all the pastel colors.

Just had to quote this one...

OB · Post by OB » Wed May 27, 2009 7:43 pm

invujerry wrote:To read what emo actually was, read this link:

http://www.fourfa.com/

Synopsys: Emo is a version of punk hardcore, where instead of singing "fuck the government" they talked about life shit. Emotional hardcore is what it started as.

Sure, people like Bright Eyes make it horrible for everyone. I hate my life, everything sucks, wah, my girlfriend broke up with me. It's almost like country without the cowboy boots.

What you're actually seeing with the ball stretching pants and pink shirts are more like "scene" kids. It's almost like grunge was in the early 90's. It started off as the "anti" and then became a trend thanks to major companies.

I've been rocking the same blue jeans and metal/hardcore band t-shirts since I was in high school. They were baggy then....but the same size pants aren't baggy now, and the shirt size has stepped up to having 2 x's though.

Exactly. You're talking about scene kids. "Emo" is just the media's term for the modern trend in younger rock music (tight clothes, silly hair, makeup, piercings, attitude etc). It is 100% fashion now, but there used to be a lifestyle associated with it. Hardcore always involved emotion, but with aggressive music and lyrics. Then one day a few hybrid bands decided it would be cool to have both singing AND screaming in the same song. After that, the lyrics and themes started to change, which is essentially when the hardcore influence dropped off. I've been into hardcore/metal for a long time, and I even went through something of a 'scene' stage back in my band days. For me it was a fashion thing; more of a 'product of my environment' thing, really. My friends did it, the bands we looked up to did it, and back then, it was cool. It wasn't mainstream and hip, it was unique.

All this is exactly like the car scene. Trends come and go, some are cool, some are shit. Some might say rice is comparable to emo. It started off good, but the mainstream took it too far and ruined it. Modeling a street car after a racecar was a great idea to begin with, but it got watered down and before long it was the opposite of cool.

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Wed May 27, 2009 8:49 pm

Lets see here...

-tight clothes
-silly hair
-makeup
-aggressive music

Yep, reminds me of my youth. This is nothing new here although I'm sure most of you think it is.