wtf timing belt problems

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wtf timing belt problems

Post by srtjesse » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:41 am

well the other day i noticed my timing belt looked to be wet so i was like wtf and decided to touch it to see what the liquid was. upon touching the belt it moved side to side like when there is no tensioner on the car so i checked the slag on the belt and it was so loose that if i wanted to i could pull the belt of the cam gear with one finger. i was a block away from home so i idled the car home when i got home i checked it and it was fine really tight and no problems so i was puzzled. well i now noticed that some times itll be loose and sometimes itll be tight what could be the problem would the tensioner just be loose or broken any help would be appreciated thanks
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Post by jT » Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:13 am

ummmmm... the timing belt is covered.. how did you see it?

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Post by occasional demons » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:40 pm

Prolly running w/out the cover.
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Post by srtjesse » Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:01 pm

ya no cover
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Post by Donkeypuncher » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:03 pm

I think the tensioner is the only part that could cause that, unless the belt stretched. How old is that tensioner?

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Post by srtjesse » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:07 pm

its the one that came with the car its an 04 but is this a common problem with belt tensioners or what
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2004 white dodge neon 2.4 DOHC swapped
2004 red dodge neon srt-4 gone :(
2000 flat black plymouth neon 2.0 DOHC swapped gone :(
2002 silver dodge neon parts car R.I.P
2000 green dodge neon parts car R.I.P

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Post by latief » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:00 pm

whatever caused this, you should be very carefull and find/fix the problem before you bend your valves badly

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Post by srtjesse » Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:02 pm

how do you know if the valves are bent
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Post by alsey_seven » Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:27 pm

do a compression test you can find out if the engine is bad.
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Post by srtjesse » Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:20 pm

how should the compression be like 150 all the way across right
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2004 white dodge neon 2.4 DOHC swapped
2004 red dodge neon srt-4 gone :(
2000 flat black plymouth neon 2.0 DOHC swapped gone :(
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Post by occasional demons » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:16 pm

If it was still running fine, and no CEL, then I doubt there has been any damage yet. I would just replace the tensioner and call it a day. IIRC NGC will throw a CEL if the cam timing is less than a tooth off.

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That would be my guess.
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Post by srtjesse » Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:38 pm

well the car is running fine no problems and well i got tired of playing the guessing game so i tore the car apart and messed with the tensioner it was just a little bit loose so i tightened it up and now its fine thanks for all your help guys
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2004 white dodge neon 2.4 DOHC swapped
2004 red dodge neon srt-4 gone :(
2000 flat black plymouth neon 2.0 DOHC swapped gone :(
2002 silver dodge neon parts car R.I.P
2000 green dodge neon parts car R.I.P

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Post by Donkeypuncher » Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:31 am

Glad to hear it was an easy fix, must be a lot easier with no cover on there.

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Post by srtjesse » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:00 am

oh hell yeah i removed it when i droped in the pnpd head
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2004 white dodge neon 2.4 DOHC swapped
2004 red dodge neon srt-4 gone :(
2000 flat black plymouth neon 2.0 DOHC swapped gone :(
2002 silver dodge neon parts car R.I.P
2000 green dodge neon parts car R.I.P

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