Powersteering Question

Cbussilver01es · Post by **Cbussilver01es** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:47 pm

Ok guys, I have another question,

I have the head and the turbo on the block now and all bolted down, and I went to put my Power Steering pump back, and realized that my lines are now too short to reach the bracket. Does anyone know what I could do to lengthen the PS lines, or any Idea on how I could mount this up so that the PS lines arent rubbing against the cams, since I dont have a DOHC upper timing cover? Could I run steel braided lines from the pump down to the cooler instead of the stock rubber?

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:02 pm

Man up and delete the PS.

You could probably go to the dealer, or the junkyard and get a set off a DOHC car. I don't see any problems with braided lines as long as they'll hold up to the pressure.

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:04 pm

Hopefully this will help...

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Otherwise you will need one line to be made for the high pressure side, and regular oil resistant tubing for the return.

Or you can do braided if you want it for appearance reasons.

Cbussilver01es · Post by **Cbussilver01es** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:11 pm

invujerry wrote:Man up and delete the PS.

You could probably go to the dealer, or the junkyard and get a set off a DOHC car. I don't see any problems with braided lines as long as they'll hold up to the pressure.

Funny... my old r/t that I had didn't have PS and Boy was it a pain in the ass to drive, I ended up getting an arm workout just.

But yea back on topic, I just have to find what NPT size the connection is for the pump. I wish I knew

once I figure out the PS issue I should be golden and the car should be running by the end of this week.

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:24 pm

The high pressure side may be a brake line type fitting, or JIC type (similiar to AN). I have never removed it, so I really can't tell you for sure. The PS pump fittings I have removed (non neon)are something along those lines, or banjo type fittings. The high side prolly can make 1500 to 2500 psi, so it needs to be a pressure type fitting. a regular ntp will prolly fail eventually. The actual fitting threads into the pump may be a pipe thread, but it has the pump body to support it.
Or the seat is built into the pump body. IDK if anyone has pics of what it looks like in a project thread or not.

Cbussilver01es · Post by **Cbussilver01es** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:32 pm

Yea thats what I was thinking. I just wish I know of another way to run them, but I guess thats what I get for adding another cam..

Idk I need to have this car running by this week.

Post by **occasional demons** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:34 pm

OK, from the pics in the '04 parts catalog, the SRT pump has a brake line type fitting for the pressure side. All you would need is to match the size at a parts store, and get a brake line union/short piece of assembled brake line to make an extesion. the hose that goes to the resivior is the return, any hose the same size that can handle heat/PS fliud will work for that.

The non SRT pump, the pics aren't too clear....

Cbussilver01es · Post by **Cbussilver01es** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:47 pm

occasional demons wrote:OK, from the pics in the '04 parts catalog, the SRT pump has a brake line type fitting for the pressure side. All you would need is to match the size at a parts store, and get a brake line union/short piece of assembled brake line to make an extesion. the hose that goes to the resivior is the return, any hose the same size that can handle heat/PS fliud will work for that.

The non SRT pump, the pics aren't too clear....

Yea I saw that the return was just a 3/8 hose If I remember correct. One thing I am also wondering is whether a 1gn ps would be better off.. the thing about that is the reservoir sits in the back. idk

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:23 am

What I did may help you. I didn't want the PS lines running near my timing belt, so I used SRT lines with my 2.0 P/S pump. It runs the lines from the rack, under the K-frame, up the front of the block, and to the pump. You will need to change the bends at the end of the pressure line where it screws into the pump, and I had to eliminate the P/S cooler, but it works like a champ.

I don't have any pic of it since I was in the same boat as you...it was needed for inspection and I had to get inventive

Cbussilver01es · Post by **Cbussilver01es** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:34 pm

Hmm...

and how would I remove the powersteering lines all together, or at least until I can try to locate the srt lines or think of another way...

This sux bc I need to have this thing running by wed, and I still have a ton to do..

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:20 pm

Well, you simply (well, you know what I mean) remove the lines there now, and install the SRT lines. If you don't have SRT lines handy and don't mind manual steering for a little while, here is what you do.

First, make sure your setup is the same as mine. You should have a metal fitting for the return line in the rack (that the hose just clamps to), while the pressure line is one piece to the rack, correct? If so, do this...

After you remove your original P/S lines, locate the pressure line that screws into the rack (it's identified easiest by the line that has the rubber line crimped to it, not clamped). I don't remember how long the metal part of the pressure line (at the rack) is, but what you want to do is cut the line as close to the crimp as you can (you want to have about 4 or more inches IIRC). Screw that into the rack and tighten. Then, using some of the return line you now have laying on your floor, connect the return fitting to your newly made pressure fitting and clamp down both sides. The only other thing you need to do is make sure that there is no belt running to the P/S pump!

And there you are. Your car is now drivable

And when it comes time to run the SRT lines, the fitting you made will be replaced with the new SRT line