Pontiac GTO or Saleen S281?

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:42 am

UriahRR wrote:Oh, and by the way, they're both American made since Holden is part of GM's Australian division.

But they were built in AU and imported here so that makes them not American-made. Trivia- Holden is owned by GM of Canada.

UriahRR · Post by **UriahRR** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:52 am

Good point, I guess it's a form of an Import then. The same way that we consider all of Saturn's last models as imports of Opels and the new Dodges as Fiats.

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:57 am

One more comment and then back on topic- not all of the latest Saturns were rebadged imported Opels (just the nice ones, unfortunately). And Dodges made by Fiat, Chrysler Group LLC, OldCarCo LLC, Daimler-Chrysler LLC or WHOEVER

) are the shizzle as long as they were/are made/assembled here in the US. My opinion, of course.

dank(r/t) · Post by **dank(r/t)** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:22 am

racer12306 wrote:
Isn't that like saying you want an SRT-4 but don't want a Neon?

that's not really that hard to imagine is it?

plus. he did say that verbatim.

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:08 pm

meh, so what I missed something.

Also, isn't 2004 the old body style? That means it won't handle for shit. Pretty sure the new style started in 2005 and I remember reading that it came with a significantly better suspension than stock.

David, wouldn't that mean that the Toyotas, Hondas, etc that are built here are good to go then?

UriahRR · Post by **UriahRR** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:37 pm

Yea, I hate the retro bullshit styles, that's why I picked the last year Mustang with originality.

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:23 pm

Can't deny that it handles like shit though.

dank(r/t) · Post by **dank(r/t)** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:28 am

why not a termi cobra? they're the ones to get, not the ugly flashy saleen's.

then whipple it...

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:44 am

racer12306 wrote:David, wouldn't that mean that the Toyotas, Hondas, etc that are built here are good to go then?

Check the US content on those cars and I would doubt that they add up to what domestic cars have. Assembly in the US by foreign companies is a step in the right direction but you have to remember that the profits go back to the countries where the companies are headquartered. If you really want my attention, show me a foreign transplant assembly plant that is UAW organized...

I'll stop and let this thread get back on topic.

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Pontiac GTO or Saleen S281?

So, after my Neon dies (hopefully not for a long time), should I get a 2005 Pontiac GTO or a 2004 Saleen S281? Both have very impressive and very close statistics, but which one would you guys get?