Remote Start

vielecustoms · Post by **vielecustoms** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:47 am

thinking about getting a remote start before winter.. I have a block heater, I love it best thing i've done to my car. but it does nothing for me when I'm at work and have no where to plug it in.

my question is I have a 02 with the sentry key. is there any way to bypass that?

Chris04sxt · Post by **Chris04sxt** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:45 am

They sell bypasses for remote start systems. I think the one for my Impala was like $20.

Some of them require a second key be kept in the car at all times.

vielecustoms · Post by **vielecustoms** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:14 pm

thanks, acutally just picked one up.

drftz31 · Post by **drftz31** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:50 am

i have the newest viper alarm in my 05 sxt. i think if the key is grey then you have the sentry key and need another key to run the bypass. thats what i had to do. but i love the alarm and remote start.

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:56 pm

You don't need the key to run the bypass. There are bypass modules out there that are only activated when the remote start is triggered. This reduces the theft risk.

Don't say there isn't either, because I have it

Caraudioholic24 · Post by **Caraudioholic24** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:11 pm

Yes DEI has come out with bypasses that dont require a key being hidden in the car.

Once you get the remote starter in you are gonna want one for every car you own. LOL

Ive benn installing them for 14+ years now and have a lot of repeat customers. LOL. Good luck with it.

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:22 pm

Caraudioholic24 wrote:Yes DEI has come out with bypasses that dont require a key being hidden in the car.

Once you get the remote starter in you are gonna want one for every car you own. LOL

Ive benn installing them for 14+ years now and have a lot of repeat customers. LOL. Good luck with it.

The bypass has been available for a number of years. A minimum of 5. May not be DEI, but the stuff I have is quality stuff.

Caraudioholic24 · Post by **Caraudioholic24** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:49 pm

Well I know they had the "pill" style for years but they were a pain to mount and stay. LOL I love the new ones that dei makes as they hook up to the cars cpu (high and low CAN Bus). Can never have an issue.

Glad to see someone having knowledge and not just BS.

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:56 pm

I only know what I hear in regards to this stuff

The remote start on my car was put on by a place in Philly that is one of the few places that do a safe manual trans remote installation. They asked me if I wanted to donate a key or use their module either way I would have to buy a key or buy the module and they were similar in price so I got the module.

Caraudioholic24 · Post by **Caraudioholic24** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:08 pm

I used to do manuals with the old compustar systems. They were expensive and a pain to install. The new viper systems i do now are awesome and can do auto or man safely. The bypasses are even better than before as well. No more issues with keys and hiding big boxes. Much better. Been with them for 14 years and i love them.

nate-00neon · Post by **nate-00neon** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:28 pm

what is a good but not too expensive remote start system that you would recomend, this is for a 04 srt4.

Caraudioholic24 · Post by **Caraudioholic24** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:08 pm

I deal with Directed Electronics mainly their Viper line (14 plus years). If you want something nice and affordable I suggest the Avital brand. It all depends on what you want it to do and what you wanna spend

RADARsx 2.0 · Post by **RADARsx 2.0** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:27 pm

Only thing I can suggest is get is done by a professional. I have seen so many people do it themselves and down the road they have nothing but heartache (electrically) after...

But i'm not a fan of remote starts at all. electrical problem potentials are always there...but thats IMO

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:40 am

I agree with the professional install. Mine has been trouble free for almost 5 years.

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:32 pm

Since brands are being suggested, who would one go to simply for a remote start system. No alarm, no door unlock/lock (I don't have power locks anyways), etc...? I just want to either be able to cool my car down when it is siting in 110+ degree weather or warm it up when it snows.

vielecustoms · Post by **vielecustoms** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:57 am

this one seems like it will take some getting use to to "set up" (car is MT) for the remote start for my car you shift to neutral, pull the e brake leave the car running, turn the ignition switch off pull your keys, get out (car is still running) close the door than arm the alarm, than the car shuts off. and it is all set to remote start.

it is a cheaper 2way setup, but works great. the bypass does not need a key the transistor is in the unit and only activates when the remote start is turned on. and if something like door is opened before disarming the alarm or brake pedal is pressed before the key is put in the on position it will shut down. and if your being car jacked you can hit the button and it will run for like 30 seconds than shut down if you dont press the button again.

I am working as a service writer at walmart TLE so I can press the button before I clock out and it starts up even thought there is a ton of interference (walls, cars, shopping carts, lol ) and the car is near the end of the parking lot.

I am still planning on using my block heater at home to save gas and wear and tear but this will be nice when I cant get to a 110 outlet.

I'm by no means a pro and do not want to sound like a douche, but I am very comfortable when it comes to working with electronics.

Caraudioholic24 · Post by **Caraudioholic24** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:17 am

You will get used to it. Took me a little while but you will love it especially in the winter.

As for a basic brand again I have dealt with DEI products for 14+ years.If you wanna a decent brand do with the Avital brand. If you wanna get a couple of bells and whistles go with the VIPER. If you have any more questions you can PM me.

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:17 pm

Just didn't know if they did the basic stuff too. Thanks!

Caraudioholic24 · Post by **Caraudioholic24** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:30 pm

No prob. Are you doing this yourself or are you having someone do it for you.

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:30 pm

Not sure yet. Have to get the wheel and tire situation taken care of first. I have no problem installing something though.

vielecustoms · Post by **vielecustoms** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:22 pm

so I finally got around to installing the remote start... it works real good. I just have to put the key in the ignition and push the clutch in and starts right up

I just need to program the bypass and figure out how to bypass the clutch safety.

any ideas on the clutch safety?

Caraudioholic24 · Post by **Caraudioholic24** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:33 am

Sends a negative signal to the clutch wire to tell the car its ok to start.

vielecustoms · Post by **vielecustoms** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:45 pm

ok got the clutch bypass working. I grounded it through the same wire that grounds the transponder bypass. works great. and only bypasses the clutch when the remote start is used now I just need to get a plain metal key made up so I can program the transponder....

the instructions that came with the transponder said use a jumper to put the car into "run" and program the transponder but I think the metal key world be easier.

let me check with you guys to see if this is correct. it says to put first key in turn on until the security light goes off, turn off and put second key turn on and security light will flash and the door chimes once. than it is in programming mode.

now the instructions says to use a jumper to put the key into run mode without starting. and hold the transponder up to the key cylinder and once it is programmed the security light will stay lit.

first, i did not see a specific "security" light. I am thinking it is the red light above the Check engine light?

and I am thinking about using a regular key to turn it on to program the transponder so I don't have to worry about shorting anything out.. would that work?

and my wifes car is definitely going to a pro... not hard to hook up just a PITA!!!... well that and I hate working on fords...

Caraudioholic24 · Post by **Caraudioholic24** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:45 pm

ok I see where this is going. Ok first off only vehicles with a "Grey" key have chips in them ao if you have that circular red light then I say yes to chip!!

Ok Im gonna tell you my trick. If youre remote start has a diesel delay you are ganna want to get a piece of wire to ground that out while you program the key. I assume the bypass you are using does not require the use of a key in a box!! So go through youre programing sequence then when you get the bypass part remote start the vehicle but make sure the diesel wire is grounded. Wait till the light goes solid and hit the brake to shut the remote start off. Unground the diesel wire and try it out.

Hope I explained that right and it makes sense to you if not PM me and I can give you my number.

vielecustoms · Post by **vielecustoms** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:40 am

makes sence. I do have a diesel delay with the system I have.

also yes to the gray key. and the bypass has the chip in it so I do not have to leave a key in it.

I will give that a try and reply back later

Thanks

Caraudioholic24 · Post by **Caraudioholic24** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:44 am

saves you the trouble of making a silly key fro no reason. LOL let me know hown it works out for ya.

nate-00neon · Post by **nate-00neon** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:16 am

can you get one of these to work with the grey key and say a turbo timer?

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:24 am

Whats a round-about cost on the viper system.

And what you charge for one installed caraudio?

vielecustoms · Post by **vielecustoms** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:35 pm

ok. it is done!!!

I tried your method Caraudioholic24 but my system has a delay between the time the time it gets the signal and the time it goes to start up. (when you press the remote the receiver gets it instantly but delays like 10 seconds before it turns anything on.) so I could not get it timed right.
I made up a metal key, and after two tries I successfully got the transponder programmed. wired it in than had to mess around with the coil around the ignition switch to get it right. but now fires right up no problems.

thanks for all the help.

can you get one of these to work with the Grey key and say a turbo timer?

mine is a gray key, you just need the transponder bypass. and the turbo timer is a feature of the alarm.

I'd definitely recommend pro installation, if you are not VERY patient and know a little electronics..

Caraudioholic24 · Post by **Caraudioholic24** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:56 am

heydockyle wrote:Whats a round-about cost on the viper system.

And what you charge for one installed caraudio?

Well it all depends on what youre looking to get done. My most popular is the remote start keyless entry trunk pop and key bypass module for around 275. Its viper so it has a lifetime warranty and I guarantee my installs for life as well. Pm, me if you want more info.

Veil: Im surprised. It always works for me on my viper units. Sorry it didnt work for ya but glad to hear you got it goin. If you need anything else let me know.