atx to mtx

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 5:03 pm

i want to swap an mtx into my 2000. will any neon mtx work? there is a local yard that has a 95... will that work? what are ALL the parts i need? and any how tos? please post up ANY AND ALL INFO you have. thanks guys and gals.

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:33 pm

heres all the info ive collected, since im planning on doin the same thing, ..

see if the tranny is from an r/t or a base 95 neon.. 3.55 tranny has the long 5th gear, better fuel economy while cruising i guess..
but the 3.94 from the r/t would be my choice..

parts..

Cable tranny from 1st gen (gearing doesn't matter. It's your preference)
Clutch cable from 2nd gen
Right(passenger) Half-shaft from 2nd gen
Clutch/Brake pedal assembly w/ sensors from year 2000 2nd gen mtx
(***WARNING*** 2000 neon only because of the cable trannies) 2001+ years are hydraulic trannies..
Tranny "motor" mount
Shifting cables and brackets from 1st gen
All tranny sensors and brackets(except bobble strut bracket) from 1st gen tranny
Shifter assembly from 2nd gen or SRT4
Boot from 2nd gen or SRT (knob depends on shifter)
Clutch and trow-out bearing

http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?t=29773

better one, w/ pics and details..

http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?t ... highlight=

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:35 pm

thanks alot man! thats a huge help. alot of those parts i can get here in town at the yard,m the rest i can get like 45 minutes away! w00t!

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:02 pm

wish i had a "yard" local here.. no pick your parts anywhere here....
when you get all the parts, lemme know what kind of prices you pay, so i got something to go on.., im thinking under 1000 easy....

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:43 pm

shit, i can get a tranny for like 100, so thatll knock the price down alot, i'm thinking this is gonna cost me around 500.

z3roneo · Post by **z3roneo** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:03 pm

What tranny mount do i use??? I have the srt tranny mount, but wanna make sure...

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:29 pm

hmm, dunno about the srt, i just know you need an mtx mount for the mtx tranny since they are different than atx.. got anyone around you with a stick, look and compare..

tamadrumr88 · Post by **tamadrumr88** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:55 pm

the srt trans mount will only work with the T-850. the 2g trans mount is for the T-350... its the engine mounts (top and bottom) that are interchangable

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:46 pm

so i need a different trans mount in order to do this?

can i do the swap withoput changing computers? will it just throw a code? or will it even run?

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:46 pm

you can use the atx computer, but the rev limiter is diff (lower) i believe.... best to just swap it for an mtx, or spend the cash on the race ecu...

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:03 pm

anyone else have any input on this?

z3roneo · Post by **z3roneo** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:01 am

Yea.. on the org it saids that it'll still run but you won't be able to rev high...

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:27 pm

ok. thanks. what about trans mounts.? are they the same or different?

22stars · Post by **22stars** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:46 pm

tamadrumr88 wrote:the srt trans mount will only work with the T-850. the 2g trans mount is for the T-350... its the engine mounts (top and bottom) that are interchangable

..as i've been told, the ATX and MTX mounts are basically the same - but i could be wrong as i've never done it man...

- Tony

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:50 pm

thanks, anyone else?

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:16 pm

bumparoo

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:26 pm

just get the trans mount from wherever you get the tranny...

scneonchic · Post by **scneonchic** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:51 pm

i doubt this makes a difference since we are talkign 1st gen/2gn here... but i was told that the manual tranny mount for an srt isnt interchangable w/ an ATX tranny mount from a reg. 2gn

Post by **Diablo0** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:01 am

Correct.. the Tranny mount from a 2GN MTX and ATX is different... as well as the tranny mount for the SRT-4

lilolneon · Post by **lilolneon** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:44 am

hmm... how hard is it to install the hydro clutch compared to the cable clutch, and whats the difference in the 2?

rOniN · Post by **rOniN** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:05 pm

bump for the hydro clutch

TNK · Post by **TNK** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:25 pm

thereason i'm not getting the mount from the donor car, si because i'm pulling the trans and such from a1g

lilolneon · Post by **lilolneon** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:18 pm

goin back to the hydro clutch, im curious if i tried to install it, would it limit me to only using 03+ trannies? and would it throw a code if i use a 03+ mtx ECU when using a cable clutch?

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:23 pm

if you pick up an older cable tranny., and wanted to use hydraulic, you would need the bellhousing from a hydro clutch tranny, the part im not 100% on is if you can just use the bellhousing from your existing atx tranny, or if it needs to specifically come from an mtx hydro tranny....

lilolneon · Post by **lilolneon** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:24 am

Noobular question im sure, but, is the normal bellhousing from a mtx different than the bellhousing of a atx?

03silversxt · Post by **03silversxt** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:38 pm

Can a cable tranny be used on an 03 Sxt for an mtx swap? Or do you have to use a hydraulic one?

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:01 pm

so if u use an 01 and up tranny u have to use hydralics but if you use an earlyer ear you can use cables? and ive herd somthing about the reverse lights you need to switch somthing so those will work?

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:17 pm

if i were to do tthe swap on my 02 atx would i need to go the hydro route? and coulld u used the clutch assmbly froma 2nd gen with a 1st gen trans

cgneon · Post by **cgneon** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:25 am

speedyrb29 wrote:if i were to do tthe swap on my 02 atx would i need to go the hydro route? and coulld u used the clutch assmbly froma 2nd gen with a 1st gen trans

dont need the hydro route.. just need the clutch assembly from a 2000 neon ONLY.. since it has the cable tranny still.. 01+ are hydro

speedyrb29 · Post by **speedyrb29** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:46 pm

what ecu wuld i need if i was doing this on an 02 and using a non hydro trans would i need an 02 mtx ecu or could i use a 2000 mtx ecu?