lth question

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:11 pm

i may possibly have my hands on a kirk lth but i'm reading 2 differemt reviews about lth in general some say they are only good for upper end power and some say that it is good across the whole band. so i'm just wondering what the honest truth is because i don't really want a just high end. i would prefer a low to mid range power gain. anyway if anyone could clear the air for me i'd appreciate it.

hybrid-Srt2001 · Post by **hybrid-Srt2001** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:52 pm

the kirk is decent for high and low rpm's. It is more of a mid length and has smaller primaries than the rest of the long tubes. Imo its the worst long tube out there.

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:32 pm

From what I gather it's like the pacesetter of LTH's. Some say you can port it and get a little better power out of it.

mikeb818 · Post by **mikeb818** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:21 pm

what is the best street header available? i heard pacesetters arent the best and kirk only has the racing headers at MPx

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:01 pm

I've been told the OBX and TTI headers are the best designs out there (obx is a TTI knock-off). Although you won't see a drastic improvement unless you have other mods to go along with the header.

Some say the primaries on both headers is too large for a stock setup, but once you get a cam and other bolt ons you make better power.

Just remember that any mid or long tube header eliminates the cat, so you'll have to have one welded in to be legal.

hybrid-Srt2001 · Post by **hybrid-Srt2001** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:45 pm

from worst to best IMO

kirk, obx, afx, fast fabs, black dog.

w0158981 · Post by **w0158981** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:07 pm

compared to stock though is it a decent upgrade? im getting it and the magnum intake for 220 but im just curious if the gains are decent. or am i looking at killing more low end power?

DR. GONZO · Post by **DR. GONZO** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:26 pm

i bought the kirk myself haven't installed it yet but i also have a comp 400 cam to go with it. the primaries are a bit small but it's a well made peice

hybrid-Srt2001 · Post by **hybrid-Srt2001** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:37 pm

honestly i think you would be better off with a magnum header if you don't have a cam

DR. GONZO · Post by **DR. GONZO** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:40 pm

who are you speakin to? me?

excon · Post by **excon** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:47 pm

From what I understand the pacesetter header is just as good as a magnum header... So it's an upgrade for non mag engines but not for magnum engines.

hybrid-Srt2001 · Post by **hybrid-Srt2001** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:16 pm

DR. GONZO wrote:who are you speakin to? me?

the op

DR. GONZO · Post by **DR. GONZO** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:54 pm

ah well fyi i might sell my stock magnum cam after the swap lol so keep an eye on the fo sale section

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:46 am

excon wrote:From what I understand the pacesetter header is just as good as a magnum header... So it's an upgrade for non mag engines but not for magnum engines.

The ceramic coated one maybe. The Mag header is 400 stainless. Yes it may rust, but it will last years past a painted steel header.

Not that it is a big issue. A Pace Setter driven on a regular basis should last 5 years or more. If the car sits a lot outdoors (not driven), it might be a bigger concern.

Donkeypuncher · Post by **Donkeypuncher** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:44 pm

hybrid-Srt2001 wrote:from worst to best IMO

kirk, obx, afx, fast fabs, black dog.

And good luck finding the last three on that list. Where would the TTI go on that list? Probably right along with the obx?

hybrid-Srt2001 · Post by **hybrid-Srt2001** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:11 pm

I have an AFX magnum for sale. Also have a fast fabs on my car. Saw a black dog sell for 100 bux this week.