Has anyone ever considered a Toyota Prius motor swap?

IGotYourDoughnut · Post by **IGotYourDoughnut** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:05 pm

I mean I know that's somthing no one would want to do, its like tearing away your cars masculinity. But if you commuting long miles daily. I mean it would generally be cheeper? But do you guys think it would work?

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:20 pm

if you have to ask, then it wont work.

lets just put it like that without going into details.

GreeNeons03 · Post by **GreeNeons03** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:28 pm

Why would you even consider doing such a thing?! If you want the Prius MPG and un-environmentally friendly style, why not just get a Prius?

ZeroChad · Post by **ZeroChad** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:28 pm

Well with enough time and money, anything is possible. lol. Really though. There are so many things different about hybrid drivetrains, you'd be better off welding the neon cabin onto the prius chassis.

For better mileage, you'd probably want to go for the 1.6 export motor swap, throw on an underdrive pulley, keep your 3.55 trans, and run that thing as lean as possible.

Post by **racer12306** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:57 pm

You have absolutely how horribly hard that swap will be. There are battery packs in the back of the car that equal ~280Vdc, which there is no room for in a Neon.

I wouldn't even begin to fathom the complexity of swaping the electronics.

It would be cheaper to buy a Prius.

I don't suggest the Prius, it's small, it's slow and it's not that impressive IMO.

If I were to go for a newer vehicle strictly for mileage, I would go with the last generation TDI Jetta (not the pump deuche engine) but I sure as hell wouldn't try to swap it into a Neon.

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:50 pm

It would be more economical to swap an MTX in, if you have an ATX. Assuming by long miles, it is hwy. I can get 40 mpg hwy if I watch my speed. So the savings in fuel to buy a hybrid just aren't there. It would prolly need another battery pack, by the time it came near paying for it's self in fuel savings. So there's another what, $5000 ?

Hybrids generally, are more suited for city use anyhow, as thats where they use the electric part more.

Dropping in the 1.8 may, or may not get you better mileage. Smaller engines have to work harder. IIRC the gearing was lower in those too. So with the 3.55 ratio, it may never get into the right rpm range to be efficient.

Take the Dakota as a prime example. with the 2.5, my Dad's first one got, on a good day about 19 mpg. The next one was a 3.9 V6, which got 23 mpg. Both 5 speeds. Both mainly hwy miles.

hybrid-Srt2001 · Post by **hybrid-Srt2001** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:50 pm

this is by far one of the dumbest ideas i have heard yet.

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:54 pm

Says the guy with hybrid in his name.

Yeah, I know the meaning has a totally different twist. Couldn't help myself.

JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:57 pm

Oh, the humor.

May I interest you in an Audi 3.0 V6? I got 47.5mpg the other day.

hybrid-Srt2001 · Post by **hybrid-Srt2001** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:03 am

heres my vote

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:06 am

i got 41mpg in my cobalt

suck it, prius.

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:18 am

Opi wrote:i got 41mpg in my cobalt

suck it, prius.

Careful what you wish for. Frank's Prius is pretty sly you know. You may wake up to screams of horror from your 'Balt.

Well, if you ever see it home again.

JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:25 am

occasional demons wrote:Careful what you wish for. Frank's Prius is pretty sly you know. You may wake up to screams of horror from your 'Balt.

Well, if you ever see it home again.

Is Opi gonna find the Balt's cylinder head at the foot of his bed?

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:27 am

i expect it back back 2011 or so.

someone go burn his shop down. i have GAP coverage for a reason

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:03 am

Actually my MPG just tanked by putting new tires on the car that are 2 lbs heavier each than OEM.

My Prius is not suited for city driving, unless you want people to ride your ass, honk and get pissed at you for going extremely slow to keep it running on the electric motor rather than switching to the gas engine.

I've got 40+ multiple times in my Neon as well.

hansken_yo · Post by **hansken_yo** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:55 pm

nicklaneSXT · Post by **nicklaneSXT** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:51 pm

**sorry a little off topic but,
i heard of some one doing a motor swap in a smart car with a busa motor. i heard it was fast

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:55 pm

I bet it would be. 200hp in a

y lil car would haul ass.

neonslg09 · Post by **neonslg09** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:11 pm

racer12306 wrote:I bet it would be. 200hp in a y lil car would haul ass.

It IS fucking fast. Check this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtWeSa3naKk

neonpla · Post by **neonpla** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:44 am

hul kogan · Post by **hul kogan** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:35 am

neonpla wrote:gtfo

I LOLed.

This thread has to be a joke.

neontj · Post by **neontj** » Sat May 08, 2010 3:48 pm

not to bring this back from the dead but what about just driving a beer can of a neon with a 3.55 with the weak 5 gear. youd be garunteed 50+ mpgs then, just never expect to go fast.lol.

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Sat May 08, 2010 4:56 pm

neontj wrote:not to bring this back from the dead but what about just driving a beer can of a neon with a 3.55 with the weak 5 gear. youd be garunteed 50+ mpgs then, just never expect to go fast.lol.

My 98 ran mid 15's, got 39MPG daily, and 45MPG on long trips. 50MPG is easily doable, there is someone on .org doing it. I'm sure I could have done better on the highway, but I was cruising at 65MPH.

Drive slower, gas mileage goes up, it's common sense.

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Sat May 08, 2010 5:18 pm

Mr Josh Zombie wrote:i expect it back back 2011 or so.

someone go burn his shop down. i have GAP coverage for a reason

I remember this

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Sat May 08, 2010 7:55 pm

heydockyle wrote:
Mr Josh Zombie wrote:i expect it back back 2011 or so.

someone go burn his shop down. i have GAP coverage for a reason
I remember this

Hey Josh, how's that 'Balt lookin' these days?

Post by **occasional demons** » Sat May 08, 2010 9:01 pm

I would say crispy, but it is prolly a pile of rust now. Or a cube.

Edit: Wait, it has transformed into a bitchin' toaster!

Mr Josh Zombie · Post by **Mr Josh Zombie** » Sat May 08, 2010 9:09 pm

El oh el. I ran an auto report on it the other day and everything checks out perfectly.

I never did get to see it either. Some days I really, really miss that car