could this be the map

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mr_mopar_neon
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could this be the map

Post by mr_mopar_neon » Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:50 pm

my neon keeps doing this odd thing

if you just drive normal then its ok but if you put your foot down she stops revving kind of like hes hitting the rev limiter????

please help its doing my head in.

iv cleaned the map and the 2 sensors on the throttle body still doing it.

the gasket is on its way out but rebuilding the top end next month with cams and vales so it could be something to do with that.

any ideas would be great also is there any way of testing a map sensore. i had it scand but came up with nothing.
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Post by hybrid-Srt2001 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:12 pm

what does it do exactly, no power or does it feel like it hit a rev limiter
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Post by mr_mopar_neon » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:37 pm

it feels like hitting the rev limiter really hard but could happen from as little as 2k rpm
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Post by ZeroChad » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:39 pm

2.7k I think is the rev limiter when the ecu goes into limp code. Are you getting a CEL? which one? you can always do the 'key dance' to get it to appear on the cluster.
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Post by mr_mopar_neon » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:49 pm

no no cell not getting any thing to tell me what wrong
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Post by gilly02le » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:03 pm

bad coil or wires?
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Post by hybrid-Srt2001 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:10 pm

thats a map problem, my 95 would do it from time to time. you would hit the gas and it sounded like it was 2 stepping. Check the sensor and all the wiring for the sensors.
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Post by heydockyle » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:17 am

Map. Mine did the same thing and turned out the pigtail and some of the wires were damaged when it was totalled.
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Post by mr_mopar_neon » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:55 pm

right thanks guys am going to get my self a new map

thanks peps
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Post by esteinmaier » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:08 pm

And/or o2, but more likely the o2 sensor isn't jumping up to 5v like it should at 100 kpa.
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Post by mr_mopar_neon » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:58 pm

well ill go with the map and go from there

thanks buddy
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Post by mr_mopar_neon » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:39 am

well got my pants pulled down by stockhills over a new map and after 2 days of waiting for it, its not fixed the prob?????????

any more ideas????
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Post by heydockyle » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:59 am

esteinmaier wrote:And/or o2, but more likely the o2 sensor isn't jumping up to 5v like it should at 100 kpa.
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Post by esteinmaier » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:38 am

That's funny cuz I meant MAP.
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Post by occasional demons » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:17 pm

Especially since the o2 doesn't sense kpa/psi. :lol:
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Post by mr_mopar_neon » Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:57 pm

ill have a play with the o2 sensor next then
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Post by occasional demons » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:55 pm

Well you can try it, but what Eric meant was he mistakenly said o2 sensor. IDK if a bad o2 would actually limit RPM, and you are not getting a CEL

You really need a voltmeter to check the sensor outputs. TPS/MAP

Have you checked the cat converter? It may cause something close to this if it is beginning to clog. Does it seem to bog more than just cut out?
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Post by mr_mopar_neon » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:06 pm

i have no cat to get blocked

i did a volt test on the map and that should up as faulty and i did a test on the o2 today that also came up faulty so got one coming on monday.

ill keep ya all posted
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Post by mr_mopar_neon » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:18 am

got a new o2 sensor on today still doing it????

going to look into the fuel set up tomorrow to see if theres any thing clogged up.

any more ideas????
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Post by esteinmaier » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:10 pm

Check the TPS. Voltage check with a multimeter is the easiest way.
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Post by mr_mopar_neon » Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:43 pm

will do

any more help would be great cant do my rebuild intill this is sorted
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Post by mr_mopar_neon » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:24 pm

right got the prob all sorted turn out to be the plugs i had them out from the start of all this and they looked fine still do now but any how all happy now
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Post by ZeroChad » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:31 pm

occasional demons wrote:Well you can try it, but what Eric meant was he mistakenly said o2 sensor. IDK if a bad o2 would actually limit RPM, and you are not getting a CEL
It'll throw a code and run uber rich, but that is it. I broke mine off when I hit that possum. Its so strange thought that its in limp mode without any CEL have you tried just resetting the ECU?
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Post by mr_mopar_neon » Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:03 am

Yup did all that neve came up with a del or even on fino just glad she sorted now. I can rebuild the top end now
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