Mounting harware for swaybars...

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:02 am

What do i need? I just got a 24mm front and 19mm back from suspension techniques and it did not come with ANY hardware at all... what will i need? 2004 se.

(i kinda got fucked by mpx... they told me that the sways did in fact come with everything except endlinks for the back.. then i got it and nothing but the bars were there...)

they seem like a good company, i called them, lets see if they are anything like howell..

randomZERO · Post by **randomZERO** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:26 am

goto to the dealer that is what I did. I dont remember the part numbers but you need the four bolts and the brackets that are held on by them. When you look in the service manual you will see what they are.

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:09 am

is that all i need? except for endlinks? is the front just bolt up? or do i need a set of bushings?

randomZERO · Post by **randomZERO** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:24 am

take pics of what your sways came with and I will tell you what you need.

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:35 am

easy, they came with just sways, the bars and thats it

randomZERO · Post by **randomZERO** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:46 am

so you need endlinks , the brackets and bolts for the front and rear for swaybars to mount to the chassis and the bushings for those. prothane would be good for the bushings and endlinks but the only place to get the brackets and bolts to hold them is dodge unless someone knows something I dont.

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:12 am

the front wont just mount up to the original swaybar location? with different bushings of course.

Mopar00Neon · Post by **Mopar00Neon** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:50 pm

Yes, it will bolt up just fine in the front like that.

Do you have rear struts or coils with sway bar brackets? If not, you might need to get new rear struts too.

randomZERO · Post by **randomZERO** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:58 pm

DoubtedNeon wrote:the front wont just mount up to the original swaybar location? with different bushings of course.

save yourself some heartbreak and buy new hardware for the front since you will probably break the bolts and such up front. I did and so have alot of others. I also forgot if your car didn't come equiped with a rear sway and your using stock struts after 2000 you won't have a place to mount your endlinks

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:44 pm

Also on the bolts that attach the bushing retainer straps to the chassis, get ones that are just long enough to clear the weld nut. That way the excess threads aren't there to rust and swell. (The main cause of the oem ones snapping off.) I also anti seized mine.

randomZERO · Post by **randomZERO** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:28 pm

occasional demons wrote:Also on the bolts that attach the bushing retainer straps to the chassis, get ones that are just long enough to clear the weld nut. That way the excess threads aren't there to rust and swell. (The main cause of the oem ones snapping off.) I also anti seized mine.

yeah I never seized as well. Also when I got the remaining bolt pieces out I used a tap and dye to clean the thread up of rust just to be safe.

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:03 am

So basically im fucked? or what? im so pissed, mpx basically told me to get fucked. now im stuck with swaybars i cant fucking use.

Fuck.

im gonna just throw these peices of shit out. fucking useless, im so pissed right now.

Mopar00Neon · Post by **Mopar00Neon** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:23 am

Calm down killer.

read what we all posted, look at your car, and report back.

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:23 am

I have a bit of an anger "issue" not realy a problem, I just dont like it when a company clearly says in an email all I need is endlinks, and then I get the part and its not complete at all. no hardware to speak of. I dont even know where to get these tabs i need. but i need them.

and basically they just tell me to go "find my own" instead of saying "ok ur right we did say they were included here you go". Ill take a look tomm. God damit. /Fuckmylife

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:40 am

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:32 am

I was under the impression that mpx was a good company, and it turned out to be like howell, nice. mpx. nice.

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:38 am

I've never dealt with MPx, but I always hear good reviews. Give them a call and an email reminding them what they told you. Unless you already tried that. Then you're the first negative review I've heard.

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:14 am

WOW. they gave me a refund on my product...I bitched alot but i got a refund. however im giving them back the money i think, ide feel terrible taking that from them. I was being an asshole i think.

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:31 am

I never had a problem with them.. You do have to watch for the fine print and options you select.

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:35 am

Haganracing wrote:I never had a problem with them.. You do have to watch for the fine print and options you select.

True, I have never had a problem dealing with Modern.

You might want to raid a local junkyard to find the brackets that you need.
Here is the one for the rear frame:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/279 ... 8db2e7.jpg

RandomZero is right..... the 2nd gen Neons that have the rear sway bar, have rear struts with the mounting bracket "built-in".

It would work similar to this:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1276/130 ... 6b79c9.jpg

These are 'tech pics' that I took of a friend's 2005 SXT, after installing a rear bar on his car.

- Nick

Post by **occasional demons** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:54 am

Chassis hardware - rear

viewtopic.php?t=18400
4656 260AA 2 LINK, Sway Eliminator

Front end links/hardware

viewtopic.php?t=44371
4656 513AA CLAMP, Stabilizer Bar
6505 622AA SCREW, Hex Head

Boyscoutgonebad · Post by **Boyscoutgonebad** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:59 am

hey man, I have a set of used mounting brackets for the rear sway bar. I might even have some bolts not sure. They're not doing me any good. Make an offer if you want them. I wouldn't be able to get them till Friday though.

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:29 am

cant find a thing on these... called around all they can find is replacement 20mm front bushings

seriously it looks like im stuck..

i have sways and endlinks sitting here, looks like my car is bound to not have swaybars.

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:54 am

called ST and got the install kit for 130 shipped, all in all i spent

130 for install kit

40 for bars

20 for endlinks

190 total for 24mm front and 19mm rear swaybars.

worth it?

hansken_yo · Post by **hansken_yo** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:45 pm

probably would have been easier to just buy a new set. maybe cost you 40 bucks more, but save the headache.

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:08 pm

300 new. saved 110 bucks. can someone post a few pics of the rear sway setup?

NickKo · Post by **NickKo** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:59 pm

DoubtedNeon wrote:300 new. saved 110 bucks. can someone post a few pics of the rear sway setup?

Here is one..... I hope this helps.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1061/130 ... 358bc5.jpg

- Nick

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:11 pm

local junkyard is where i got my rear swaybar and hardware

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:48 pm

couldnt be better, thanks nick!

Caraudioholic24 · Post by **Caraudioholic24** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:05 pm

energy suspension makes the clamshell with the size bushings you need together. They also have the optionon of being greaseable or not. I got a set of 19mm rears with the grease fittings since I couldnt just find bushings.

As far as the strut brace I believe any aftermarket strut you get will have that perch attached.

Good luck though I hope everything works out