New Cars for '11. And Ford to use European focus.

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:25 am

Here yee Go

CR-Z?

And oh a 5.0 Mustang 412hp

And a 556hp Caddy.

JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:52 am

A CTS-V Coupe. Loved the 4-door model. This looks to be even better.

Can't wait to see the European Focus over here too.

rOniN · Post by **rOniN** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:45 pm

Love the CTS-V and with 556 hp those things REALLY move

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:48 pm

the focus looks real nice. but the CTS looks too long

superdan · Post by **superdan** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:49 pm

there is a guy around here where i live with a twin turbo cts-v...he has the turbos back by the exhaust

i have heard about putting turbos before the exhaust but have never see it and damn shit is sick, the turbos spool so loud...took a ride in it and we where going 100mph+ in no time

i think he said it has 500+ hp

Midnight_Rider · Post by **Midnight_Rider** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:49 pm

I couldn't sit upright in any of the Caddies at the Indianapolis Auto Show. The raking rooflines look smart from the outside but aren't very practical if you have passengers. Of course, they go fast so who cares, right?

Sykora · Post by **Sykora** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:51 pm

Those look pretty nice. I don't like the front fascia for the focus though. Little rice-inspired i think.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:44 pm

FORD FINALLY FUCKING GETS IT!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Hopefully the RS is on its way over to. It would make a nice track car and I can daily drive the EVO.

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:47 pm

MoxHair wrote:FORD FINALLY FUCKING GETS IT!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Hopefully the RS is on its way over to. It would make a nice track car and I can daily drive the EVO.

Dam, must be nice to have that kind of money. But I have to agree. The RS in that green color is pure sex. 300hp 6spd. Yum Yum

He Hate Me · Post by **He Hate Me** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:04 pm

The Focus RS is nice, but for the price tag it carries (over $40k) I don't think it's going to attract the crowd that it's hefty price tag is in.

The CR-Z is a let down with it's hybrid

Trinity · Post by **Trinity** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:33 pm

He Hate Me wrote:The Focus RS is nice, but for the price tag it carries (over $40k) I don't think it's going to attract the crowd that it's hefty price tag is in.

The CR-Z is a let down with it's hybrid

even at 35k... it will probably fail and go the way of the CSRT4
people would rather buy a evo or STi IMO.

now if its got a much much smaller pricetag... it will go over well

ragek23 · Post by **ragek23** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:50 pm

u say that but look at what cars are actually competing in WRC, the focus RS not the STi or EVO. Its a proven competitor.

Tho I do also agree with you in the fact that as a daily driver i would rather have an STI or EVO rather than a focus. It will take the US public awhile to recognize the RS on the level of the STI or EVO.

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:05 pm

Supposedly the Focus RS is f/s in Mexico and someone bought one and brought it over to the states.

He Hate Me · Post by **He Hate Me** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:15 pm

Also for the price tag, people aren't going to want FWD when they can have AWD.

There will be a few diehards like MoxHair, but not enough. Prices will need to down to compete.

silversport · Post by **silversport** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:09 pm

rOniN wrote:Love the CTS-V and with 556 hp those things REALLY move

I love the power of the CTSV but the clutch on them is so weird!! the clutch is in and 2 mm less and its full engaged. Its like a race clutch but so easy to push in. Also foot E brake on manual car FTL.

Post by **racer12306** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:57 pm

1. CR-Z = fail. What's the point of doing a hybrid if it only gets 36mpg?

2. Focus: Not too bad. Looks like it may be too big for the market, like what Honda has done with the Civic.

3. MKX: Not my kind of car, but it doesn't look too bad. Good power and Sync FTMFW.

4. E-Class: Interesting convertible idea, but sounds silly. Why get a convertible if you don't want a convertible?

5. Mustang: It's about damn time they put some power in the base and GT models.

6. CTS-V: sex, but I do see what David is talking about with the roof line.

MoxHair · Post by **MoxHair** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:16 pm

ragek23 wrote:u say that but look at what cars are actually competing in WRC, the focus RS not the STi or EVO. Its a proven competitor.

Tho I do also agree with you in the fact that as a daily driver i would rather have an STI or EVO rather than a focus. It will take the US public awhile to recognize the RS on the level of the STI or EVO.

If I could of gotten a Focus RS at the time I bought my MS3 or EVO I would of. The Focus has a terrible name here in the US, but over seas it has a huge following and is seen as a true rally inspired car more so than the EVOs and STIs.

He Hate Me wrote:Also for the price tag, people aren't going to want FWD when they can have AWD.

There will be a few diehards like MoxHair, but not enough. Prices will need to down to compete.

There isn't anything wrong with FWD.

Plus the REVO Knuckles in the RS make the car a world beater when it comes to handling and overall performance.

MyNeonSaysHi wrote:Supposedly the Focus RS is f/s in Mexico and someone bought one and brought it over to the states.

ugg.. Note to self. Fly To Mexico.

fixitmattman · Post by **fixitmattman** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:33 pm

The new focus is win. It's gonna be a toss up between that and the new fiesta. Although since they shit canned the two tone dash in the fiesta it makes me reconsider. That was a hot looking interior.

rOniN · Post by **rOniN** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:49 am

silversport wrote:
rOniN wrote:Love the CTS-V and with 556 hp those things REALLY move
I love the power of the CTSV but the clutch on them is so weird!! the clutch is in and 2 mm less and its full engaged. Its like a race clutch but so easy to push in. Also foot E brake on manual car FTL.

Yeah, I've heard that the clutch takes some getting used to, but I think I could easily make an exception!

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:54 am

pics?

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:06 am

DoubtedNeon wrote:pics?

of?

He Hate Me · Post by **He Hate Me** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:12 am

heydockyle wrote:
DoubtedNeon wrote:pics?
of?

Clutch

Flip book style!

TeckNeon · Post by **TeckNeon** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:20 pm

The Focus is going to move up market similar to what the Civic did just before the Fit came here. The new Focus will be more money but it's obviously going to be a great looking car. Plus the Festiva is only "cheap" if you get it with nothing in it. They make PILES of dough getting it to where a nice daily driver would be. I built one on the website and was at $21K before I knew it.

I know the new Focus is going to turn heads and really bring the under 30 crowd in for sure. Ford really has their shit together anymore. They are actually giving people what they have been asking for and it's paying off. The only downside is that their partner Mazda is going to take an initial hit on sales when the new models hit the lots. The 3 is a great selling car but the redesign is a bit off-puting for some. I can see people who originally bought the old 3 new looking at the Focus if they want to keep in the same neighborhood of vehicle.

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:04 pm

Ford certainly has their shit together car wise, whether or not their trucks has their shit together remains to be seen.

I haven't been impressed with Ford's car lineup until I drove the Fusion and now that the Focus and Festiva is coming to the US it will be even better.

The heavy-light duty trucks tanked with the 6.0 diesel and they have been trying to catch up ever since. If they did the 6.7L diesel correct they will have a winner, it just needs to be reliable because it certainly will have the power (390hp/720ft-lbs)

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:05 pm

Fusion is a pretty quick little grocery getter.

Post by **racer12306** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:11 pm

Comfortable as hell too.

I drove one for 7 hours straight and only stopped to go to the bathroom about mid trip. If I didn't have to pee I wouldn't have stopped.

I also drove from from Dallas to Sweetwater and back (8 hours round trip)

rOniN · Post by **rOniN** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:54 pm

^^I've also heard the Fusion is a nice car...I got a Chevy Malibu for a rental a few weeks back and I was rather impressed with it as well.

Post by **racer12306** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:11 pm

That is another car I would like to get as a rental. They look pretty slick for a family car.

That is one of the huge benefits of my job, I get to drive a variety of cars.

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:14 pm

racer12306 wrote:That is another car I would like to get as a rental. They look pretty slick for a family car.

That is one of the huge benefits of my job, I get to drive a variety of cars.

and you picked the prius......

No matter what, we will never let this go

Post by **racer12306** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:16 pm

Actually, I didn't pick it. I tried to tell them I was too big for the Prius, but their logic was that I fit in a Neon so I should fit in the Prius.

Sadly they were wrong.

I was trying to get them to put me in a Jetta diesel with a 5 speed. They wanted fuel economy so I was trying to give them fuel economy.