CD Changer issues...

[LilSparkPlug]

Okay so here's the deal....04 SXT with an RBK radio that has the pinout for a CD changer.

I have:
Six disc from the Kicker system out of my 04 SRT. It worked great when I took it out. I plug it into Nee and it cycles through all six shelves and then it lights up number one and refuses to load. The display reads ERR. Before it reads ERR it says Disc 1 Track -- --

I got today:
Four disc out of an 00-01 Neon. I plug it into the harness in back of the radio and it cycles through all four shelves while all four lights and the ready light blind simultaneously. Once it stops cycling, it continues to blink, will not let me load and reads ERR. Before it reads ERR it says Disc 1 Track -- --

Now both of these changers clearly work. I took them both apart and found nothing wrong with any of the circuitry, everything is aligned, etc. I have an RBK radio, which SHOULD accept a CD changer. I have double checked the pinouts and everything matches up and the PCI bus cable is in tact.

It is AT ALL possible.....that my radio isn't compatible with either one of these even though it's an RBK code?? I'm out of options here and I want a factory changer. I now have two that I cannot use.

Any input or ideas would be awesome.

[RayWolf]

well is the radio an after market one?
if so it will not work because the programing to run the cd changer only works with the factory radio
thats why it is saying error
trust me i was online with crutchfeild.com techs finding a radio that would be compatible with mine and nothing is

*edit
oh it is stock well um you may have to reset the cd changer try disconecting the battery hook up the cd changer and then reconnecting everything back up and then try just one cd and try pushing the 3 button that helps mine work some time and turning the radio on on and off many times try that and lets see if that works

[occasional demons]

RBK is just the code for the factory radio.

[RayWolf]

here this may help
http://www.ertyu.org/steven_nikkel/neon ... 028-03.pdf

[occasional demons]

I don't think she has a problem with anything in there, since she took them apart, and checked everything. If it was a disc issue,it would have been an issue in the other car, too.

Possibly there is a wire missing somewhere between the changer and the radio. They are good for doing that. When I installed cruise in my neon all the wiring/connectors were there. But one wire was missing between two of the connectors. No terminals, just an empty hole.

[RayWolf]

well if shes using the original wire that was in her car to begin with it should work i will look at my wires because i have a 6 disk cd changer for the factory in my car and it works just fine
but mine was doing that err when i got it and all i did to fix it was take out the cd holder and rearrange the cds and put it back it and it worked just fine
i think its been a few months since i did this

[Panhead]

I would try using another stock unit. Have you by any chance mis-handled the cd changer? I have a RBQ (indash 6 cd changer) and even the slightest bump will throw off the changer. If the other unit don't work, try another harness.

[Danteneon]

I checked on Dealer Connect and it gave me no real info for diagnosing this problem.

Just for grins, did you try to install both of these changers back into Lucius to see if the work there? The changers themselves are supposed to be completely compatible with the RBK in Nee.

[LilSparkPlug]

All of the wires are in both connectors per the pinouts on Dealer Connect, they're all where they should be. The only reason I mentioned that Nee's radio was an RBK is because that's a radio that has an in-dash CD changer out on the rear of it. There were only certain radios that were compatible.

Unfortunately this is the only stock radio I have, I could always go to the JY to pick up another one though and try that but I'd hate to keep spending money. Lucius has an in-dash Jensen so I can't install them back into him The day I took the six-disc out of him, it worked perfectly.

Ray: I'll try the battery trick and the number 3 trick today. I'll see if those work at all. I had seen that TSB prior, but there are no CDs in the six disc it won't let me load one. I'm going to take apart the four disc today and check that one.

Here's shots of the six disc taken apart:













I just find it very hard to believe that BOTH of these are damaged in the exact same way....it's weird. Hopefully the battery trick works.

[LilSparkPlug]

Tried the battery thing....and the third tray thing. After they cycle through the trays they both flash and don't stop

[nineball]

i have my old stock radio sitting in the garage. tell me where the codes on it are and i can check to see if it will work for you. came out of an 05 sxt w/o the changer but ya never know.

[Caraudioholic24]

I have two differnet factorys crystal let me know. On is brand new from my 05 and the other is from an 03.

[LilSparkPlug]

Mike, what are the codes on the front of the radios? Or rather...do they have the plug in the back for the changer?? I'd like to check to see if it's my radio...or if it's indeed the changers that are bad.

[Caraudioholic24]

Im pn the road now but I will check tonite for you. I believe my 05 had the plug ready to go. I will let you know.

[LilSparkPlug]

Okay that would be awesome, that would definitely help solve the issue. Or at least figure out wth is going on.

[stdlystdmufn]

i have the old factory radio that controlled my 6 disk that you can have if you pay for shipping? but it will be a couple days cus my car is in the shop now and the radio is in the trunk

[RayWolf]

so looking at this your have 6 disk in dash changer and your trying to run a external CD changer with it?
if your trying that i dont think it would work?
maybe im wrong i dont know
and the 3 button i was talking about is the 3 on the radio not on the changer itself
i dont know much about the radios
you could also try the key thing with turning it on and off may times and see if that resets your computer and it may work
idk spark

[TheRandom1]

No. She has the factory radio and is trying to run a factory changer, but neither her 4 disc or 6 disc will work for some reason. They're both factory parts.

[LilSparkPlug]

Yes, what Sean said.
- Factory RBK code 2004 radio
- Factory 4-disc Changer
- Factory 6-disc Changer
- Factory 8-pin black cable

Yet nothing works Once Mike's son (and Mike) are better I'll try his factory radio, I don't want to spend a fortune buying radios that I'm not sure will work, who knows maybe both changers are in fact bad. If that's the case I'll find a local shop to fix them since the dealer asks for $$150-200+ to ship it out and repair it. :\ Eep.

[heydockyle]

Buy an Ipod. Problem solved. Just kidding lol.

I think I have my factory radio in the garage somewhere? Once my power comes back on I'll check and see.

[stdlystdmufn]

if your radios are broke i will give you mine you just have to pay shipping from 46202. its a six disc that worked as of last week when i put a new HU in

[LilSparkPlug]

Your six disc or your radio?

[stdlystdmufn]

sorry im a tard my 6 disc

[Caraudioholic24]

Crystal give me a couple of days here. Im gonna dig them out tomorrow for you.

[Craz1000]

i know at some point the CD changers were very specific to a certain year and would only work with either that year and/or model radio.

for a fact an 00-01 will not work with an 02.5+ but between 02-05 there were versions here and there that were very specific as far as the bus itself. just keep that in mind

but im sure its most likely a pinout change on the bus lines