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set up i am buying

Post by bimmershark » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:09 pm

so a local guy to me thru this up for sale

Tokico illuminas 5way struts (rear only) the fronts blow about a year ago
upgraded front style stocker struts (6months oldish)
tein s-tech springs 1.8 front 2.0 rear drop

and i am buying it ..

does it it seem like a decent set up ?

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Post by racer12306 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:21 pm

Why would you want two different struts on the car? Especially when the backs are adjustable and the fronts aren't.

I'd get matching struts.
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Post by 1972demon » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:30 pm

Just to let you know TEIN s-tech are going to drop you more then that, also stock struts aren't going to last too long with a drop like that, what would you be paying for the setup?
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Post by bimmershark » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:56 pm

the reason they are unmatched is the front tokico ones blew out so he replaced the fronts with the others ..down the road i will def source a matching set for the front..

buying them for 250 which seems like a decent deal for me at least

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Post by TheRandom1 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:07 pm

I wouldn't do it. Not at all. But then again, I see no reason at all to have mismatched struts...
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Post by racer12306 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:09 pm

I would just wait and do it right. Not only are the capabilities of the struts mismatched, but so could be the valving.
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Post by bimmershark » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:25 pm

i already have them....... i wont be driving the car hard its gonna be a daily driver......at least till i decide to auto cross it then i will make sure everything is matched i am pretty sure i could source a front set

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Post by racer12306 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:28 pm

:facepalm3:

What's the point then?
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Post by TheRandom1 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:29 pm

Doesn't seem to be much point to ask for opinions and purchase it anyways when everybody says it's a bad idea...
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Post by bimmershark » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:32 pm

dont see why it hurts to ask an opinion on it whether i bought them or not ..

i still got more info then i did before say ing that the mis matched struts may cause issues so i will be on the look out for a front set .. :tardbang:

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Post by TheRandom1 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:34 pm

Not to mention the other obvious flaws...

the front struts blew out a year ago, so there's a good chance the rears are worn out as well and will also blow out soon.

Then there's the whole "buying performance struts and not using them for anything but DD use" issue...

I can think of much better ways to waste 250 bucks, really.
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Post by bimmershark » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:39 pm

well it will probably eventually turn into a auto cross car , plus i needed to either buy a new set of tires or srt struts to get my wheels to fit with out rubbing..

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Post by TheRandom1 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:41 pm

Wow. So you have no clear plan with the car, bought a mismatched set of struts against the advice of people here who know a helluva lot about the topic, and you still see nothing wrong there?

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Post by racer12306 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:41 pm

wait, wait, wait...


So you bought a set of struts that you will have to replace soon anyways because you will need the higher strut perches?
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Post by bimmershark » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:52 pm

guys this car is pretty much just a beater , i know enough about cars to get myself in trouble....i trust your guys opinion but really its just a neon to me nothing more just a toy / beater /dd ..

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Post by Neon4Life » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:55 pm

wow.. if you spend that much on struts and springs then its crap.


i wouldnt spend that much on a mismatched setup.

you can get some pretty good lowering springs on ebay and call it a day.


that setup your buying is probably going to last you like a week if that.

good luck i guess.
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Post by TheRandom1 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:55 pm

But why ask for opinions if you were already set in buying it? That part makes NO sense at all. What difference does it make if it's a good deal or not if you're going to buy it anyways? That is a complete waste of time, and now you've just wasted money on a beater by not listening to us.

This whole thread is very full of fail...
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Post by MoxHair » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:56 pm

Garbage Setup is Garbage.

Tein S-Techs are too low and take away from the rebound ability of the struts to work correctly.

Miss-matching struts will really make the car unbalanced as the characteristics of the suspension will be different from front to back. When weight transfers the car will react unpredictably. Which is very bad. There are probably a million other reasons but you probably won't listen anyways.

If you want to autocross you do not want 17" wheels on a neon. You want something with enough sidewall to absorb some wheelspin mid corner, but has a stiff enough sidewall not to roll over. I say use a wheel and tire combo similar to what the ACR SRT came with from the factory.
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Post by bimmershark » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:03 pm

i get what you guys are saying i do . and the issues with the equipment will get corrected along the way ...

and mox its the suspension off of shawns red srt ..

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Post by MoxHair » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:16 pm

Shawn is a better driver than that Suspension was letting him be.

Daily driving the car on this suspension wouldn't be so bad. But if you were competing I wouldn't suggest it.
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Post by bimmershark » Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:19 pm

yeah its just gonna be driving to work /running errands and car meets...once i get serious about autocross ill do it right

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