Suicide at College today

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:23 am

A suicide occured last night, one of the students in a class I had killed himself.

A counselor came in to talk to the class, and one of the kids tried to say that he was int he same position.

"I remember I tried to kill myself a couple semesters ago. I was on my way home and I had failed a calculus 2 test, and I was considering driving into oncommming traffic."

counselor: "What made u decide to not do it?"

Stupid FUCKING kid: " Well, i didnt wanna be a vegtable, because theres no pride in that ".

after that I got up and walked the fuck out. Im so angry that this kid would try to compare that he failed a test to a suicide. That is insulting to me, and the situation. Not to mention the fact that he would try to kill himself by driving into someone else! wtf!?

thought Ide share.

Thoughts? fuck.

synviper · Post by **synviper** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:29 am

Thats messed up man, There has been a two suicides from people i used to go to high school with (gunshot and suffication). I know life is hard majority of the time, but killing yourself leaves so many people here hurt and to be honest is the bitch way out, sorry.

Was this person a friend of yours or just a classmate?

JeffM · Post by **JeffM** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:30 am

To some people, doing good in school can mean a lot. Not saying it's the right thing, but everyone's different.

Very random topic, Colton.

synviper · Post by **synviper** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:31 am

When school frustates me, ie homework,studying,or bad test, I take it out on n00bs on mw2.

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:38 am

I just feel like what the kid said was super insulting to the kid who killed themselves. wtf man, show some respect u know?

dtjackten · Post by **dtjackten** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:48 am

yeah, something must of been mentaly wrong with him/depressed/exc i have had several family members commit suicide... (depression is a very serious thing) it is a state of mind that some can not work out in there minds and do some stupid stuff.... my car has saved me more than once, it is my out in life, i have a bad day, or a depressed day i go to the garage, it helps me calm down, and think about something else in my life, something that makes me happy,.... heredity can sometimes not give u all of good things....

i remember when i first got diagonosed with it, i always thought like it was a terrible thing, my mom and sister have it also.... i was honestly ashamed of it.... but now i am not afraid to talk about it, five years later.... shit i just told how many members i have never seen or met about it?

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:25 pm

What should piss you off, is the fact he was worried about turning himself into a veggie (if he wasn't successful), and not a bit concerned about the other victims he might have killed/left on life support for years. "It's all about me, Bitches" That sort of person would be no great loss. At least limit it to your own family grieving, not someone else's.

dtjackten · Post by **dtjackten** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:31 pm

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:20 pm

suicide is a selfish way out. I'm sorry, but it is. My former tennis partner committed suicide a little under a year ago, and as much as it hurt, it's also a little insulting. Don't compare your lame failing test to suicide, don't commit suicide, don't be a puss. Sorry, but that's the way it. One of the most selfish acts committed IMO.

dtjackten · Post by **dtjackten** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:50 pm

^ failing a test is absolutly a stupid reason to commit suicide, that is more of a i want attention statement to me.... but to the kid that did commit suicide i would like to know his reasoning and mind set.... to some college can be a terrible experience, some it is just absolutly kick ass and fun.. (i loved basketball in college, just hated going to class

)

sometimes there is more going on in someones head than just i had a bad day i am going to kill myself.... those people are just stupid and selfish.....

cbjones26 · Post by **cbjones26** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:18 pm

dtjackten wrote:^ failing a test is absolutly a stupid reason to commit suicide, that is more of a i want attention statement to me.... but to the kid that did commit suicide i would like to know his reasoning and mind set.... to some college can be a terrible experience, some it is just absolutly kick ass and fun.. (i loved basketball in college, just hated going to class )

sometimes there is more going on in someones head than just i had a bad day i am going to kill myself.... those people are just stupid and selfish.....

100% agree with you there. ppl that really want to die are not gonna sit there in class and tell someone that they thought about doing it. that is just a way to get attention, if someone has there mind set on killing them self they will just do it, otherwise its a cry for help or a cry for attention. and i agree with is being selfish , yes the persons pain might end if they end their life but they need to step back and think of the ppl they will leave behind.
i have been there, when i was younger i tried to commit suicide, and wouldn't be here right now if it was for my dad walking into the room. i have never seen my dad cry other then the time i tried this and that there was enough to make me open my eyes and see how many ppl i would hurt.
to me it seems like this "class mate" is making a joke of the whole situation.

sidepipe87 · Post by **sidepipe87** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:34 pm

There have been several suicides around my recently. In fact, two weeks ago a girl here hanged herself in one of the dorms. She was a Dean's List student, involved on campus, she was in my ex gf's sorority too. I'm willing to bet she had too much pressure put on her by people to do well. I know it can get very overwhelming, but suicide is not the solution. For me the solution is: "Go fuck yourself". I'll do what I want with my life, if you can do it better then good for you.

As for the reasoning being failing a test, a calc test even -- fuck I'd have been dead many times already. I failed calc 1 (the class) twice then took calc 2 at community college and got an A ftw.

I used to feel this way occasionally when I was much younger but I feel part of that is just the part of growing up through the awkward years in life where you don't really have a voice of your own and you have to rely on others to get by. By the time I got to college it got worse, but by the end of my first semester I was feeling tremendously better and surprisingly my grades were NOT better. I've just accepted the fact that this is how it is and I'll graduate eventually. Life is too short. Fuck it, live it up while you can.

I'm not trying to downplay the situation at all, I hope I'm not taken the wrong way.

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:54 pm

I went through depression at the start of my senior year of highschool

I had thoughts that I couldn't control. It felt like I couldn't even control myself. It had to be one of the hardest times of my life. I had thoughts of killing myself and I didn't even want too.. My mind would be telling me to and I had to fight it off.. Thats how fucked up I was when I had depression. I knew that killing myself was not an option and I wasn't going to hurt my family and friends and leave everyone behind.

But For those 4 months (Aug-Nov of 2006).. I had almost no control over my thoughts when I was by myself, thankfully I have some of the best friends I could ever ask for.. They would try to hangout with me every day.

Still to this day I thank them and they will most likely never know how much they helped me. So whenever I see someone that looks down in the dumps or you can tell they go home to be by themselves a lot, I make an attempt to talk to them and see if they want to hangout with my friends and I.

DoubtedNeon · Post by **DoubtedNeon** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:56 pm

Im sorry for leaving your class, but in my honest opinion the student who sits in the front to the right of me was making a complete mockery of the whole situation, it pained me to see that whoever he is sit their and tried to make his situation rise to the level of pain that Eric must have been feeling. I can NOT sit and listen to his babbling. To me what he was saying was insulting to myself, im sure many other students, and the situation we are placed in. I am furious right now and that is the reason I left your class so abruptly today. I hope you can understand why I am so angry. Normally I am rather stoic, but this really struck home for me.

If there is anything we covered I would appreciate it if you would please email me back.

Thanks,
Colt-

the letter i wrote to the proffessor

dtjackten · Post by **dtjackten** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:48 pm

colt, i hope that ur professor understands that.. you worded it very well.... and it is true, honestly if i was in ur shoes i would of taken one of mine off and thrown it at the kid....

Haganracing, that is pritty much what i deal with on a day to day basis, granted i am on meds to "try" to control it... but honestly some days are harder to control that others... i am a very easy person to get along with, but somedays are VERY hard to control my self.... i can turn into a COMPLETE ass hole very fast... and honestly at a blink of an eye.... when i do i ALWAYS make sure to appoligize to the person or persons i just went off at..... i can not control it at all, prolly one of the hardest things i will have to deal with in my life...

honestly when i hear of people commiting suicides it makes me wonder what they were thinking, because i know that i have had those thoughts and shit i have had some stupid actions also.... i know how it is to not beable to control urself....

jetas · Post by **jetas** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:15 am

Sucks. My years in High school i heard of about 10+ deaths. A couple of friends of mine died, Classmates, and just people i had spoken to personally a day before they died.

shits crazy. depression is a bitch, i kno i got a bit of it but it only comes on when i hear shit.

Sux to hear about your classmate colt. And smack that dumbass that takes calculus just to fail it

hybrid-Srt2001 · Post by **hybrid-Srt2001** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:33 am

FAC3L3SS wrote:suicide is a selfish way out. I'm sorry, but it is. My former tennis partner committed suicide a little under a year ago, and as much as it hurt, it's also a little insulting. Don't compare your lame failing test to suicide, don't commit suicide, don't be a puss. Sorry, but that's the way it. One of the most selfish acts committed IMO.

While you do have a fairly valid point, it is still kind of upsetting that you put it that way. Have you ever been chronically depressed? you have no idea what it is like and what goes through a persons head during those times. to someone that is depressed, you don't think about what you are doing and it is not about being selfish or not. I really wish you could understand. I do have to say that i agree there are better ways of handling things than killing yourself, however have a little sensitivity and put yourself in their shoes....

To the op, i don't think that you did anything wrong by walking out of class, it sounded like the kid wasn't taking things too seriously.

dtjackten · Post by **dtjackten** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:12 am

like my mom explained to me... and it honestly makes the most sence.... it is like u are stuck in a well, and want to get out but can not make urself climb up the rope....

the guy in ur class colt i prolly would of walked up to him and knocked him out and let the professer continue.... people that have NO CLUE of what depression is or is like to have it, will never understand...

you really have no control over what u do and what u say.... wowwww.... that just braught alot back......

Paul56 · Post by **Paul56** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:30 am

It is called terrorism when your actions to kill yourself may take someone else out at the same time.

dtjackten · Post by **dtjackten** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:05 am

it is called just being a jack ass is more like it.... the kid that talked in class was odviously trying to be funny and had no clue

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:45 pm

I believe suicide, despite being a selfish choice, is your decision to make. Yes, that action will haunt everyone around them and can never be reversed, but I respect their decision and something they wish to do.

I would not look down upon anyone who does it. It is your life.

Life is hard. It takes a lot of courage to really live it.

FAC3L3SS · Post by **FAC3L3SS** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:12 pm

hybrid-Srt2001 wrote:
FAC3L3SS wrote:suicide is a selfish way out. I'm sorry, but it is. My former tennis partner committed suicide a little under a year ago, and as much as it hurt, it's also a little insulting. Don't compare your lame failing test to suicide, don't commit suicide, don't be a puss. Sorry, but that's the way it. One of the most selfish acts committed IMO.
While you do have a fairly valid point, it is still kind of upsetting that you put it that way. Have you ever been chronically depressed? you have no idea what it is like and what goes through a persons head during those times. to someone that is depressed, you don't think about what you are doing and it is not about being selfish or not. I really wish you could understand. I do have to say that i agree there are better ways of handling things than killing yourself, however have a little sensitivity and put yourself in their shoes....

To the op, i don't think that you did anything wrong by walking out of class, it sounded like the kid wasn't taking things too seriously.

I just live with my mom, who has been diagnosed with seasonal depression since her first marriag ended (15 years ago) and chronic depression from her last divorce (just shy of three years ago). She has SEVERAL doctors, therapists, and psychologists she sees. Hipnotists and the like, she's there and works with it. She hasn't smiled in God knows how long. Have I personally been depressed? Not seriously. Am I religious? Slightly. I do have extreme anxiety issues. Several times I week I get close to breaking down, and typically do once or twice a month.

My mom refuses to admit defeat, regardless of what she's said or tried doing. While you also have a valid point, suicide IS selfish and IS a weak way out. Weak people typically do it. Which sucks, because in this world people need to suck it up and learn some problem solving skills.

Pocahontas · Post by **Pocahontas** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:35 pm

Dang. I feel horrible for this kid's family.

dtjackten · Post by **dtjackten** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:58 am

Adionik wrote:I believe suicide, despite being a selfish choice, is your decision to make. Yes, that action will haunt everyone around them and can never be reversed, but I respect their decision and something they wish to do.

I would not look down upon anyone who does it. It is your life.

Life is hard. It takes a lot of courage to really live it.

i agree fully with you adionik.... a good friend of mines father commited suicide... it was complete random, i saw him the day before he killed himself, so full of life, like he always appeared... the next day he was found dead in his living room.... all of his sons and daughter came home for his funeral... he had ran a local auto shop for several years and was well known, the amount of people that backed him and his family was unreal... people never knew he had problems, he hid them well.. it was a shock to the community.... he had a reason to do it... the problem is that NO ONE will ever know why.... (no note was ever writen)

Adionik · Post by **Adionik** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:08 pm

dtjackten wrote:
Adionik wrote:I believe suicide, despite being a selfish choice, is your decision to make. Yes, that action will haunt everyone around them and can never be reversed, but I respect their decision and something they wish to do.

I would not look down upon anyone who does it. It is your life.

Life is hard. It takes a lot of courage to really live it.

i agree fully with you adionik.... a good friend of mines father commited suicide... it was complete random, i saw him the day before he killed himself, so full of life, like he always appeared... the next day he was found dead in his living room.... all of his sons and daughter came home for his funeral... he had ran a local auto shop for several years and was well known, the amount of people that backed him and his family was unreal... people never knew he had problems, he hid them well.. it was a shock to the community.... he had a reason to do it... the problem is that NO ONE will ever know why.... (no note was ever writen)

I believe there are certain issues that time cannot heal, and probably would lead a person to do it.

The only things that come to mind would be a spouse dying, or killing someone in your family accidentally...