has anyone tried zmax

drftz31 · Post by **drftz31** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:06 am

last night me and srtjess changed the oil...so i seen this product called zmax...i have heard about this product years ago but never really thought nothing of it...so i decide to try it..i used castro gtx 10w 30 in the car for every oil change...the bottle told us to just add it in to the oil...it claims to have increase hp and better gas milage but i have seen no difference in the car... i would like to know if anyone has tried it and how has it worked for u in other of your cars or the neons thanks....the bottle looked nice so did the informotionals

blueneo03 · Post by **blueneo03** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:30 am

ive used it once... nothing noticeable really..but ya ive seen the commercials as well and they made it look enticing..

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:15 am

Boost performance via lightening your wallet.

Haganracing · Post by **Haganracing** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:38 am

occasional demons wrote:Boost performance via lightening your wallet.

There is no magic bottle, or 10 dollar chip on ebay that will give you noticeable horsepower.

If you want horsepower, you have to pay.

Neon4Life · Post by **Neon4Life** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:23 am

Haganracing wrote:
occasional demons wrote:Boost performance via lightening your wallet.

There is no magic bottle, or 10 dollar chip on ebay that will give you noticeable horsepower.

If you want horsepower, you have to pay.

OB · Post by OB » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:37 pm

occasional demons wrote:Boost performance via lightening your wallet.

Bingo

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:30 pm

It's colored...vegetable oil was it? Been a while since I've looked at the FTC complaint file.

non-magnum · Post by **non-magnum** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:32 pm

Neon4Life wrote:
Haganracing wrote:
occasional demons wrote:Boost performance via lightening your wallet.

There is no magic bottle, or 10 dollar chip on ebay that will give you noticeable horsepower.

If you want horsepower, you have to pay.

Swordfish2Cowboy · Post by **Swordfish2Cowboy** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:34 am

Here you go.
Oh,and this too.

Maybe you should go change your oil again.

esfan · Post by **esfan** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:42 am

most of those additives are snake oils...

Thomsy · Post by **Thomsy** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:42 am

I tried it bout 7 or 8 years ago and also never saw a difference. But there more about cleaning carbon and what not out of your engine and helping ur rings seal and helping ur seals then horsepower.
I've heard really good things about Seafoam. I haven't tried it yet though. But u do have to change your oil an hour after running it. My buddy tried it an he his Saturn smoked like crazy burnin all the carbon out of the motor.

c987long · Post by **c987long** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:43 am

Thomsy wrote:I tried it bout 7 or 8 years ago and also never saw a difference. But there more about cleaning carbon and what not out of your engine and helping ur rings seal and helping ur seals then horsepower.
I've heard really good things about Seafoam. I haven't tried it yet though. But u do have to change your oil an hour after running it. My buddy tried it an he his Saturn smoked like crazy burnin all the carbon out of the motor.

thats what i have used 2x and i like it.. i also use shell gas.. and everything is peachy!!

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:54 am

Yea adding stuff in your oil isn't going to increase hp.

I put marvel mystery oil in my cars and dad puts it in his. No hp boost lol, but it quieted down our noisy motors (Especially his with 105k on it)

Post by **occasional demons** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:38 am

Fresh valve guides will also quiet things down. After having my head refreshed at 112,000 it was much quieter. Just the exhaust guides were worn.

iskyfly · Post by **iskyfly** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:03 am

Thomsy wrote: My buddy tried it an he his Saturn smoked like crazy burnin all the carbon out of the motor.

How do you know it was carbon and not the product in seafoam that was causing the smoke thereby giving the impression that it must be doing something?

Thomsy · Post by **Thomsy** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:32 pm

True nuff. His Saturn did run better afterwards and it was a piece of shit with like 300k on it.

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:09 pm

Sea Foam Motor Treatment is a unique 100% pure petroleum oil product

Naturally when you dump oil into an engine, it is going to smoke. There are about 4? ingredients in Seafoam. I don't see tham on thier site, but I will look on the can. I'm not sure what Mopar Combustion Chamber Cleaner has in it, but for me it seems to do a better job. It is a bit more clingy than Seafoam. I have heard the Deep Creep works better than the motor treatment.

http://www.seafoamsales.com/

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:39 pm

SeaFoam has Pale Oil, Naphtha and IPA.
Deep Creep has "Hydrotreated heavy naphthenic distillates," alkanes, IPA and carbon dioxide.

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:00 pm

CO2 is just the propellant. Fuckers could have used NO, like Redi-whip does. The engine might run better while spraying it in.

Thomsy · Post by **Thomsy** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:19 pm

With Seafoam it actually tells u on the bottle to put sum in the oil, sum in the intake while engine is running and sum in th fuel tank for your injectors.
When my buddy did his Saturn he had to change the oil twice. It made the first oil change kinda milky and was still cleaning carbon out.

Post by **occasional demons** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:28 pm

Milky wouldn't be from carbon. As long as the oil is changed on a regular basis, I would only use it for combustion chamber, or maybe as a fuel additive. Adding it to the oil would be a last ditch effort if the engine was really bad off.

Thomsy · Post by **Thomsy** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:30 am

No it's more to help clean and lubricate all your seals and to help ur rings seal properly.

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:42 am

You are only supposed to add it to the oil before you change it, not for the duration of the OCI.

Thomsy · Post by **Thomsy** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:58 am

Yes I believe I said that in my first post. Your supposed to run it for 1 hour and then change the oil. Longer could cause damage.

Post by **occasional demons** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:54 am

seafoamsales wrote:To clean oil rings and lifters, add 1½ oz. Sea Foam to each quart of oil. Sea Foam will slowly re-liquefy the old oil varnish residue that builds up on lifters and rings and prevents them from functioning normally. This process can be done as part of a pre service cleaning by adding the Sea Foam to the oil at least 30 miles before the next oil change interval. OR it can be done as a preventative maintenance process without changing the oil. You can leave Sea Foam in the oil indefinitely as long as the oil is clean. The addition of a high-detergent oil like Sea Foam may cause the oil to become dirty faster than normal as buildup oil residue and contamination are cleaned. Check the oil at regular intervals and when it gets dirty, change it.

iskyfly · Post by **iskyfly** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:01 am

still looking for real data on whether this product works as advertised or not. anecdotal observations like "seems better" and "white smoke" don't cut it.

fixitmattman · Post by **fixitmattman** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:56 pm

It doesn't. In fact there have been lawsuits over it.

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/zmax1.shtm

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:35 pm

Thomsy wrote:Yes 1 believe 1 said that in my first post. ur supposed two run it for 1 hour and then change the oil. Longer could cause damage.

I just don't see how it is going to lubricate your seals then, and help your rings seal properly if it is only in there for a drive to clean it is all.

As for if ZMAX really works, re-read the first half of the thread and look at the links for your real data.

iskyfly · Post by **iskyfly** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:59 pm

darthroush wrote:look at the links for ur real data.

no real data at all.

maybe thats the point...

Post by **racer12306** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:15 pm

iskyfly wrote:
darthroush wrote:look at the links for ur real data.
no real data at all.

maybe thats the point...

Actually it is real data. There were two links posted by swordfish cowboy. That is your proof that ZMax doesn't work.

Unless you quoted just the right things to make it seem like it's the Seafoam that is junk.

I'm almost certain people have done before and after teardowns when using Seafoam to prove it does work.