Help????

rock · Post by **rock** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:54 pm

does anyone know if i need to turn the magnet in the cams,i have a 95 harness and a 2.4 out of a 97 stratus? am not getten spark and the in jectors are not worken,does anyone have any ideas?thanks

rock · Post by **rock** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:24 am

2.4 in a 95 neon, have no power to cam sensor no spark, there fuel in the rail but injectors wont work,it will pop with staring fluid,i have heard alot bout cam magnets,i didnt change anything out of the 2.4 motor it is still stock,i am usen the 95 pcm, and sohc harness,i feel i have tried everything this the biggest thing i have jumped on and would reaally like some help please, Thanks Greg

MrAngry · Post by **MrAngry** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:12 am

Sohc harness, and sohc pcm? or just the harness.

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:23 am

I say this a lot, but I'll say it again.

Make sure the coil pack connector and the cam senor plugs aren't switched.

MrAngry · Post by **MrAngry** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:42 pm

or that.

rock · Post by **rock** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:43 pm

i the sohc pcm and harness,and about the coil pack and the cam seonsor being switch? i had to pigtail the plug from the 2.4 to the 2.0 harness.I just matched up the wire>with the cam sensor wires being so short and the coil one being long i didnt think i could have messed them up,but maybe i could have

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:07 pm

Unplug the cam sensor and see if it will start.

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:08 pm

All of this information is in the forum link I gave you.

Look in this area:

http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=318202

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:18 pm

You already have a post about this. Don't make another.

rock · Post by **rock** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:19 pm

tried that,i dont seem to be getten powere to injectors,cam sensor and coil,i shouldnt have to turn the cam magnet to get spark should I?

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:41 pm

Me having my cam off 1 tooth on my 98 sohc made it not fire injectors. If the cam magnet is not oriented correctly, you will not get spark.

sirvaliant_98 · Post by **sirvaliant_98** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:07 pm

if your running the stock 2.4L cams you do not rotate the cam sensor, leave it alone. you have other issues.

Fuzzyneon · Post by **Fuzzyneon** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:28 pm

sirvaliant_98 wrote:if your running the stock 2.4L cams you do not rotate the cam sensor, leave it alone. you have other issues.

you only need to rotate if you run 2.0 cams

rock · Post by **rock** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:09 pm

is there anyway to check if the pcm is bad,cause that would make sense why i dont have power to the coil pack,injectors,cam sensor and everything else on the engine,i have power on the fuse bar.????

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:29 pm

Is the crank sensor working? Do you have any codes/CEL?

If you unplug the cam sensor, it should still get spark. The cam sensor is mainly there to time the injector sequence to the cam phase. It will run but not well without the cam signal. I wasn't aware it would not with the wrong cam signal tho.

IDK is the wiring colors are the same on 1gn or not, but the Cam sensor should be pin 1] Orange (5 volts) 2] Black/Light Blue (Sensor Ground) 3] Tan/Yellow (CMP signal)

Coil is 1] Dark blue/Tan (coil control #2) 2] Dark Green/Orange (+) volt supply 3] Black/Gray (coil control#1)

If the wire colors are the same, you should be able to tell if you spiced the wrong one.

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:35 pm

rock wrote:is there anyway to check if the pcm is bad,cause that would make sense why i dont have power to the coil pack,injectors,cam sensor and everything else on the engine,i have power on the fuse bar.????

The Orange wire is the 5 volt supply to the crank, and cam sensor.

The Dark Green/Orange wire is the 12 volt supply to the coil and injectors. It is powered through the ASD relay. Assuming 1gn and 2gn are alike. I don't have a 1gn manual to refer to.

rock · Post by **rock** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:48 pm

u are right the green/orange wire does go to the injectors,coil and shut down,i stripped the green/orange wire and hooked a direct hot wire from battery to that green/orange wire that goes to those parts and i still didnt get any spark<all i need is the motor to run i dont need any interior stuff at all,so all i have been doing messen with the wires under the hood,there are only the ignition wire hooked up and the clutch that is comen out of the fire wall if that makes it any easier<is there something that goes in threw the fire wall that i am missen,thanks for suggestions

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:23 pm

You probably fried something wiring it directly to the battery. I'd be certain of it. I'm not sure we can help you.

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