You know what really sucks?

bombtrack07 · Post by **bombtrack07** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:08 pm

When you go to change the transmission fluid and this is all that comes out. It was pitch black and smelled like death. This was done a day before my axle tried to escape last year.

hansken_yo · Post by **hansken_yo** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:35 pm

I think you have a problem there....

heydockyle · Post by **heydockyle** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:44 pm

Maybe it wants to be good oil and not leave it's work area?

synviper · Post by **synviper** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:31 pm

Thats totally normal no need for that nonsense.

bombtrack07 · Post by **bombtrack07** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:07 pm

^^ Yeh trans fluid is totally overrated anyway

We tracked the problem to the right axle seal. Replaced the seal and added friction modifier with 3 quarts of ATF+ and I'm good to go. Quieted down the throwout bearing too; that damn thing sounded like it was about to explode

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:37 pm

The friction modifier and ATF was such a bad move on Chryslers part. It's an inferior fluid to even Pennzoil Synchromesh. The friction modifier will only hurt the organic seals in the transmission.

Also, changing transmission fluid shouldn't have an effect on the throwout bearing, since the bearing is not lubed by the transmission. You probably heard gear lash inside the transmission since there was no fluid.

OB · Post by OB » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:53 am

invujerry wrote:The friction modifier and ATF was such a bad move on Chryslers part. It's an inferior fluid to even Pennzoil Synchromesh. The friction modifier will only hurt the organic seals in the transmission.

Also, changing transmission fluid shouldn't have an effect on the throwout bearing, since the bearing is not lubed by the transmission. You probably heard gear lash inside the transmission since there was no fluid.

MyNeonSaysHi · Post by **MyNeonSaysHi** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:27 am

Assembly line ownage.

bombtrack07 · Post by **bombtrack07** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:05 am

Well the rattling noise stops when I push the clutch in. Several people have told me its the throwout bearing. After I changed the fluid, it got a lot quieter, which I thought was odd. Would gear lash stop when the clutch is engaged?

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:40 am

It would since pushing in the clutch disconnects the engine from the trans.

bombtrack07 · Post by **bombtrack07** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:50 pm

So if it really is gear lash, is it a normal thing? Should I be worried about it if it's loud enough for me to hear?

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:01 pm

MyNeonSaysHi wrote:Assembly line ownage.

Not checking your fluid ownage...

bombtrack07 · Post by **bombtrack07** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:04 am

darthroush wrote:
MyNeonSaysHi wrote:Assembly line ownage.
Not checking your fluid ownage...

Yes, yes, it's my own dumbass fault. But should I be worried about this rattling noise?

Danteneon · Post by **Danteneon** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:45 pm

Worried? I wouldn't think so...till something goes wrong.

Mine has some noise as well, mostly when cold. But other than the noise I have had no problems out of it.

darthroush · Post by **darthroush** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:57 pm

I'd see how it does with some fluid in it first. The noise will probably go away.

INVUJerry · Post by **INVUJerry** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:34 pm

If the noise went away, I wouldn't worry about it right now.

bombtrack07 · Post by **bombtrack07** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:19 pm

The noise is still there, it's just a lot quieter after I filled the transmission. It's been doing it since I bought the car in June '07 but I've never noticed a degradation in performance. Then again, if this POS isn't making noises then something IS wrong.

Post by **occasional demons** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:59 pm

bombtrack07 wrote: Then again, if this POS isn't making noises then something IS wrong.

True, they are just saving energy for a bigger noise.

JeffB#2 · Post by **JeffB#2** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:36 pm

invujerry wrote:The friction modifier will only hurt the organic seals in the transmission.

and the fiberide linings on the synchros. I'd even go so far as to suggest draining it and refilling WITHOUT the dreaded friction modifier. Even New Venture / Magna does NOT suggest using the friction modifier.

the noise is more likely an internal problem. 99% of people think it's the throwout bearing and it's almost never the real problem. http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=356527